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White screen with EGPU only connected

I'm using a Radeon RX580 epug with my 2018 mac mini. If I try to boot with Catalina with only the egpu connected I just get white screen on boot. However if I boot with a combination of a monitor attached to the hdmi port and the egpu connected to other monitors, then the mac will boot correctly. It's very strange because the egpu works, but not without a hdmi display connected to the mini. Has anyone else had this bug and any suggestions? For now I'll just keep a hdmi display attached.

Mac mini 2018 or later

Posted on Oct 8, 2019 8:01 AM

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Posted on Feb 10, 2020 9:34 PM

I can confirm that the latest public beta does fix the issue. It seems like it also did a firmware update to the MacMini. It's crazy that Apple would break something so important and never comment on the issue. But they seem to prefer quietly fixing issues without ever admitting there was a problem.

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Feb 10, 2020 9:34 PM in response to Yockster

I can confirm that the latest public beta does fix the issue. It seems like it also did a firmware update to the MacMini. It's crazy that Apple would break something so important and never comment on the issue. But they seem to prefer quietly fixing issues without ever admitting there was a problem.

Dec 12, 2019 1:04 AM in response to Mac Carlos

@Mac Carlos

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250714657?answerId=251771630022#251771630022


...same Hardware here (Vega 56 + Razor Core X eGPU), but no Issues with Catalina upgrade: I did a clean install via USB Thumbdrive, Monitor was plugged in directly to the Mini, eGPU detached. Did a PRAM-Reset after installation, shut down the Mini, reconnected the eGPU with Monitor attached to it, no Problems so far.

Oct 9, 2019 11:08 PM in response to rsmith4321

This is a known and repeatedly reported issue which was sadly overlooked during the Catalina Betas by the Apple team. The issue is dubbed "white screen of death"


The problem mostly affects the 2018 Mac Mini running Catalina connected to a AMD Radeon RX570 or RX580 based eGPU.


The symptom is mostly a blank white screen (sometimes black or magenta) upon boot and excessive GPU heat which causes the GPU fans to spin to full speed after a while.


You have to do the following to live with the issue:


  • When the white screen appears, turn off your eGPU for 5 seconds and then turn back on. The login screen should appear normally.
  • Turn off "Start up automatically after a power failure" under Settings/Energy Saver
  • Turn off "Install macOS updates" under Settings/Software Update/Advanced...


The last two actions are needed to prevent your Mac to boot to a white screen unattended causing your eGPU to overheat for extended periods of time (this might cause further hardware related problems).


See these discussions for more information:


https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/state-of-egpu-for-macs-catalina-10-15-update

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/macos-catalina-tidbits-egpu-updates/paged/2/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/catalina-egpu.2193797/page-4?post=27853347#post-27853347

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-2018-hot-egpu-fan-full-throttle-after-upgrading.2204860/

https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/dex36o/egfx_breakaway_box_550_amd_580_catalina_troubles/





Nov 12, 2019 7:19 AM in response to rsmith4321

Same issue with RX560 in Breakaway Box running Mojave on 2018 Mini. Problem started after latest security update.

I have a second monitor connected to the HDMI port - that does not avoid the problem if eGPU is powered. The workaround I use is:


  1. Boot with eGPU powered off with second monitor on HDMI
  2. After login complete, I turn on eGPU then move second monitor to eGPU. Both monitors behave normally


I am running FileVault so I have my second monitor on an HDMI switch that allows me to trivially move the second monitor between Mac HDMI and RX560.

Oct 9, 2019 5:57 AM in response to rsmith4321

I just called Apple Support regarding this issue (Sonnet Breakaway 550, Radeon RX 580). The rep couldn't find any information about the issue on their boards, so she talked with a senior supervisor. After that, the rep told me they were surprised it was working with Mojave because "the website" said it was only supported through High Sierra. I'm not sure what "the website" is because Sonnet's website clearly says Mojave (10.14), which makes me think they didn't really dive into the issue. They said I should contact Sonnet to see if there is an updated driver.


In other words, Apple said it wasn't their problem.


My suggestion is to call Apple Support. If they get enough calls, someone may actually look at the problem.

Oct 10, 2019 4:28 PM in response to selected9

I've been in touch with Sonnet and they were able to narrow down the issue to a driver. It looks like a place holder has been set in the PCI section instead of the native AMD driver. So this isn't a systemic issue it seems, but it may be still be fixable by Apple if they cared enough to address it. If reinstalling doesn't work then it may be a hardware problem where the PCI isn't being detected properly.

Oct 11, 2019 3:15 AM in response to Yockster

There is no official way of installing drivers as they are included in the Apple OS. However, it's likely that a driver could be installed manually using an "unsupported" driver insertion (kext). Sonnet recommended backing up to Time Machine and reinstalling from scratch or downgrading back to Mojave. I'm going to resintall this weekend and report back.

Oct 11, 2019 3:44 AM in response to Maxxuless

One guy at egpu.io tried to revert to Mojave but he now has a black screen of death problem upon boot.


The issue seems to be related to a Mac Mini 2018 firmware update which runs during Catalina upgrade. This firmware update enables boot screen during boot (this is why you see the Apple logo during boot instead of just a blank screen as it was the case before), but somehow interacts badly when the Operating System's Radeon Polaris drivers (which supports the RX560/570/580 cards) fires up. The problem is not eniterly universal as there are Polaris based products which work fine.


Since the system firmware remains updated even if you revert to Mojave, you might still encounter problems.


For more info about the firmware update and the newly added eGPU boot screen support, see this discussion:


https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/mac-mini-2018-egpu-boot-screen-support





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