Mixing/Bouncing

OK, so I have tweaked your mix: disabled all unused plugins (housekeeping) and made four mix subgroups (DRUBA) (drums and bass) (other) INSTRUMENTS, harmony vocals (BVOC) and all vocals. I also turned down the delay (which was at 100 % on some tracks - not good for vocals) and I turned down the reverb on the vocals, I believe they now stand out better. I also panned the harmony vocals slightly left and right, so they separate more from the lead vocal.

I am unfamiliar with this kind of music (what language is that?), so I am not sure what kind of sound you are going for, so I tried to keep the sound more o less as you already made it, no "westernisation". This was only about 30 minutes of tweaking, no doubt it could improve even more, but it is a start for you. Hope you like it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TK_Ii4eTS2uzL-paFgMi8F6Bk97P9bsR

The bounce screenshot has PCM highlighted, but you are bouncing to MP3 (the blue tick), so you should highlight that so we can see what settings you have there.

Also, your mix is too simple, everything goes directly to the stereo out. You should route similar tracks to auxes (submixes), so you can submix them there and have more control over the coherence of the various elements.

Also, are all those plugins actually doing something? That is an awful lot of pitch correction, are you actually using that? Flex Pitch is a better approach for that.

https://help.apple.com/logicpro/mac/10.4/#/lgcpba8e3301

You may need to watch some tutorial video's on how to mix, to get a better grasp of that process. The (paid) videos by Macprovideo are a good point to start. (Im am not affiliated with them, other pro video sites are available) but I would start with pro video makers, there are just too many amateur badmixhabit instilling YT tutorial video's out there.

https://macprovideo.com/library/application/logic

also, this is a great site to get solid advice, the website owned and run by the writer of the official (used by Apple to train for Logic Pro X certification) Logic Pro book, David Nahmani:

https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/

Mixing is not something that can be learned quickly in a day or a week, but once you dive into it using these resources you will improve quickly.

deeeee208 wrote:

For some reason my vocals don't have that I'm-singing-in-front-of-you effect.

Unfortunately that cannot be remedied by just looking at your mixer on a screenshot, mixing is an art and a skill that is akin to learning to play a musical instrument. I am however willing to take a listen to your mix and provide you with some pointers, if you are willing to upload your complete project to Google Drive or dropbox or similar big file sharing services and post a link to that here, or indeed over at https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/

What is in it for me? I am in the process of starting a business providing this kind of help, and I am training myself - so helping you would help me practising my supporting skills - and (for now) it is still free of any charge.

Important when uploading the project: zip the folder or the package (whichever you use) before uploading it. Unzipped project folders or packages may get corrupted or unreadable. ZIPping prevents that.

OK, I downloaded it and will look at it tomorrow (it is three at night here, I am going to bed now). It maybe prudent to remove the download though - unless you'd like more people to take a look (though not many might).

I'll get back to you within the next 21 hours or so.

Wow. If there was a button for the best post of the year I would have clicked on it!

It is amazing how the powerful versatility of modern DAWs leads beginners to this situation. I know you suggested YouTube training videos. I think nothing beats books written by recordists from the old school: Linear tape editing. This teach you economy of means.

OK I know, books these days...

WD

Wilddrums wrote:

I think nothing beats books written by recordists from the old school: Linear tape editing. This teach you economy of means. OK I know, books these days...

WD

Yes economy of means. Related to that is how limitation forces one to be creative.

The most common error I've found from users mixing in the box (besides hundred of plugins) is too much bass, that in combination with a hard limiter. on the master bus and people wonder why thier mix isn't "loud" enough.

"Related to that is how limitation forces one to be creative."

Be creative yes, and focus on the essential. This remember me of when I was editing audio on Panasonic video tape hardware and... my astonishment when the studio gave me access to - I'm not sure exactly - an Amiga to do some in the box fine proofing.

Years before... in a basement... guitar and drums... amazing results with only a four tracks recorder and appropriate mic placement.

OK. Enough with old timer stuff 😉.

WD

I'm back... From I personal twist if you let me.

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Their last production : https://lachapelle.org/en/schedule/Please-Thrill-Me from Sean Nicholas Savage just amazes me how they can use advance technology in conjonction with musical creativity. All live scripted and interactive production level mixing. There is hope...

Whe are from Montréal ... To be in NYC and beyond later this year!

Sorry for the advertising tone 😉.

WD

Visited both links, looks like a highly creative ensemble and reminds me of something my daughter would love to be involved with, she's in London working with the London Contemporary Orchestra.

Listened to some of SNS's playlist, quite a genre jumper, modern and old school at the same time.

Thanks, always good to hear and see quality.

Hi,

A screenshot of the complete Mixer and the Bounce dialog will help us to help you. Among other things, start by setting the Normalize option to OFF.

when I bounce my project the loops don't bounce with the other tracks