Airplay to homepod dropping when using iTunes on Windows.

I've been having this issue ever since I bought the Homepod about a year ago: when using airplay to stream from iTunes on Windows, the audio will periodically drop out seemingly randomly. It will come back if I hit the "next song" button. Sometimes it comes back by itself after a while. When it drops and I click on the Airplay control in iTunes, the checkmark next to the Homepod has turned into a horizontal line. Ican make it come back if I click the horizontal line and turn it into a checkmark again.



Here are some observations:

  • Happens on Windows 7 and Windows 10.
  • The Homepod is about 10 ft from the WiFi Router (NetGear R7000)
  • When two Homepods are connected, it happens to both of my Homepods at the same time.
  • It doesn't happen when I'm using iTunes for Mac, but it still happens if I use iTunes for Windows running via Parallels (Windows 10) on the Mac.
  • My PC is connected to the router via Ethernet.
  • if I continuously ping the Homepod, there are no apparent packet drops when the music cuts out, so it's still connected to the network. Latency is <10ms, but after disconnecting, latency will increase to >100ms until the audio is reconnected, and it goes back to <10ms.


Here's some things I've tried (unsuccessfully) to fix it:

  • Update the firmware for Homepods
  • Update iTunes to latest version
  • Update router firmware to latest version
  • Tested 2 different brands of routers, a modern one from TP-Link and an old one from Cisco.
  • Turn off network QoS in the router setting and in the Windows network settings
  • Turn off IPV6 in network settings
  • Turn off the 5GHz radio on the router
  • Turn off the 2.4GHz radio on the router
  • Called Apple tech support (got "make sure your WiFi signal is good/software is updated" answer)


Seeing that this only happens on Windows and not the Mac, it seems like either some Windows incompatibility or an iTunes for Windows bug.

Windows, Windows 6

Posted on Mar 16, 2020 12:39 AM

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Mar 20, 2020 9:29 AM in response to mah6786

Hi mah6786.


If you have already tried removing and reinstalling all of the elements of iTunes for Windows, then there is one more step to take before you would need to reach out to Apple Support directly.


Anti-virus and security software including VPN apps have been known to interfere with iTunes on the Windows platform. If you have any of that kind of software installed, you'll want to uninstall it and test again. Note that you will need to totally uninstall and not just disable it.


If the issue persists with any security software uninstalled, then reach out directly to Apple Support again and ask for a Senior Advisor.


Contact - Official Apple Support


Cheers.

Mar 16, 2020 1:47 PM in response to mah6786

Hello mah6786 and welcome to Apple Support Communities.


I see you are having an issue with your HomePod devices losing connection to iTunes running on a Windows PC. I can also see you have done some very extensive troubleshooting.


Given what you have already done, in order to fully isolate the issue to iTunes the best step will be to totally get rid of the current installation and start over.


Remove and reinstall iTunes and related software components for Windows 7 and later - Apple Support


Make note of the order in which the components needs to be uninstalled and make sure to uninstall everything before reinstalling.


Cheers.

Apr 10, 2020 7:40 AM in response to dimkalgr

I was also having this issue. dimkalgr is correct, this is the only way I've been able to resolve. I thought it was a network issue, possibly inability to buffer adequately or connection being disconnected after period of perceived inactivity. Really wish Apple/iTunes team would get this resolved, as the TuneBlade software is somewhat user friendly, this issue is a detriment to Apple's reputation for providing a seamless user interface when using using properly licensed software and hardware. Might as well get a Fire Stick and Sonos at this point!

Jun 17, 2020 5:53 AM in response to hitandrunlover

I gave up and bought a cheap mac, transferred my entire library, and it works flawlessly now. Something interesting I've noticed is when itunes for mac is still connected to my homepods via airplay but no music is playing, they seem to "go to sleep" and the check mark turns into the same dash we've been seeing when they drop out. As soon as I hit play, they wake up/reconnect and begin playing with the checkmark. It's as if itunes for windows is lacking something to keep the homepods from doing the same even when music is playing.

Apr 4, 2020 2:52 PM in response to mah6786

Mah6787 -- I'm having the EXACT same problem, and it's driving me nuts. I can add that it also happens at the exact same time with apple tv's, but it does not affect airport express 2's. I've got an old airport express 1 that I've thought about swapping back in and testing, but I don't really see the point. It seems to cut out more often after the 2nd or 3rd song ends (once I start playing music) and sometimes comes back when a new song starts after I've missed a few (I can barely hear the music coming from my PC speakers when the homepods are out); however, that's not consistent at all and generally just comes and goes seemingly at random.


Thanks for trying everything you've done so far and saved me further headache. I went through the same thing streaming to apple tv's 5+ years ago and did everything you did just to find that it was McAfee even though I had opened all the correct ports, temporarily disabled firewalls, etc. Once I uninstalled it fully then the streaming started working again. I use Bitdefender now so I'd be curious to know what program you're using.


I've gotten my hopes up after every ios/homepod/itunes software update over the past few months but to no avail. I'm thinking it's a itunes for windows problem of some sort since airplay from an ios device to the homepod works fine (although that may be more bluetooth than wifi). And I haven't called Apple tech support yet because of the same thing you got - level 1 waste of time.

Apr 4, 2020 4:01 PM in response to mah6786

dimkalr - Thanks for the Tuneblade idea, I tried it out and now it looks like I can at least stream to the Homepod. Not bad for $10. Unfortunately, even in "real-time streaming" mode there is lag between my computer speakers and the HomePod. Interestingly, when I use iTunes for Mac it also has a noticeable lag so I can't use my computer speakers at the same time, but the lag is small enough when I use Windows iTunes that I can use both at speakers at the same time, which is awesome. I really wish iTunes had an audio synchronization system like the Apple TV does.


Chris0419 - I ended up wiping my whole computer (yes, this bugs me that much), and it still happens, even if I disable the built-in Windows firewall. At this point I'm sort of out of ideas. But since Tuneblade works, it seems like the network/firewall isn't the root cause of the issue--it's probably iTunes.


You know what the sad thing is? I used to an Apple engineer. I could have easily found the right people to complain to--people that could actually fix the problem. But the whole time I was there I though it was just me, since nobody else was complaining about the problem on this forum.


Apple Community Specialists--This is a real problem and it's not just me. Please file a radar with the iTunes team.

Apr 15, 2020 6:39 AM in response to mah6786

I have this exact same problem since last year. I have 5 HomePods around the house. Playing music from my laptop via iTunes Airplay to any of them results in periodic drop offs - to the point now where I've had enough. I've reset router / bought new router / reset HPods so many times both in the app and by pressing the button on top till it goes red - I've changed channels in my router - turned ALL wifi attached devices in the house off and only had the lap top and the Hpods turned on - NOTHING makes a difference. I've tried it with songs ripped from CD - bought in iTunes - bought on Amazon - all the same. I've been in touch with Apple support since it started - In January this year they installed a profile on my iphone to collect data for the homepods - asked me to write down the times of the drop offs also - which I've done - they then retrieved the data - I'm still waiting and when I ask for an update I'm told they are still processing it all - personally I think it's a ridiculous amount of time and a ridiculous amount of money I've spent - have more users encountered this? I'm on Software 13.4 on the pods. I've also tried everything you have to troubleshot also. G

Apr 18, 2020 1:03 PM in response to Pieter Ratering

I tried another laptop (Lenovo) today with an older version of iTunes on there - my own laptop has the most recent version of iTunes. Same problem. So now I’ve also ruled out any incompatibility with HP devices and the current version of iTunes. So, 2 HP laptops - Lenovo laptop and an HP desktop pc. All the same issue. But they all stream perfectly to my Altec Lansing InAir 5000 speakers. The issue is def with the Home Pods. So frustrating. 😭

May 16, 2020 3:56 PM in response to mah6786

Chiming in here to say I've been dealing with this same issue with a windows iTunes install and an AppleTV 4K since the tvOS 12 release. At initial release, Airplay with tvOS 12 wouldn't even work at all. They since fixed that part, but it consistently drops out in the manner mentioned (checkmark to dash in itunes).


I wanted to note that I can be streaming the music simultaneously to an older Apple TV 3rd gen, and it will not cut out at all, while the Apple TV 4K will intermittently drop and reconnect (or I can manually reconnect it if I deselect the dash, and select the airplay speaker again in itunes).


I reached out to support several times but it ended up going nowhere, as they said they would not help me if I was running beta versions of the tvOS software (which I enrolled in as a troubleshooting measure).


Pretty annoying issue.

Mar 17, 2020 8:55 PM in response to Joseph_S.

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried uninstalling and deleting everything and reinstalling, but it actually broke something, iTunes would take forever to start and it couldn't find any airplay devices. I ended up wiping the hard drive and doing a clean install of windows and iTunes. It can find the Homepods now, but the audio still drops. I've tried disabling the firewall and also turning off all the services in the Network adapter settings except for IPv4, but it hasn't helped.


I live in an apartment complex and there are probably a dozen WiFi networks from my neighbors, so maybe it's interference. However, it doesn't have this problem when I use my Mac or any iOS device. So I'm guessing maybe stream interruption recovery mechanism in the Windows version of iTunes isn't very good. The Windows version of iTunes probably only gets cursory testing in-house, since all the Apple employees are using Macbook Pros.

Mar 22, 2020 12:58 AM in response to Teddy_B

Hi I am having similar problem. I have installed back the Bonjour program which I deleted sometime before. It helps a little but it still drops off from time to time! I am thinking of getting a newer dual bands wireless router as my router is more than 6 years old! Do you think that would help?


Would love to get this problem fixed as HomePod Siri is also not that smart in listening to my voice command! I also found that music plays in iTunes via airplay sounds better than music Siri plays via voice command.

Thank you!

Mar 22, 2020 2:38 AM in response to Tony_Mak

I don’t think a new router will help. I’ve tried 3 different routers from Netgear, TPLink, and Linksys and they all have the same problem. The Netgear and TP Link routers were modern high end dual band routers, the Linksys was an old 2.4 b/g router. This is with a clean installation of windows with no antivirus, and the windows firewall turned off.

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