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MBP 13 2020 won't recognize USB devices from TB dock after sleeping and connecting to the dock. After unplugging the dock MBP crashes and does SMC reset

Device: MBP 13" 2020 10th gen i5

Catalina 10.15.6

Dock: CalDigit TS3+ with firmware 44.1


I'm not sure if this problem is exclusive to Catalina 10.15.6, but I can't say since my dock arrived after the latest update got shipped and I haven't tried if it works on 10.15.5.


Basically, I unplug the dock at night and put the MBP to sleep. After a few hours of sleep it seems to stop recognizing the USB devices plugged into the dock. The dock has a USB audio interface, a logitech wireless dongle (for G604 mouse), a DP monitor and the power supply for the dock. When I plug it after the mac has been in sleep for hours, the mac won't recognize the audio card and the mouse (just the USB issue we had in previous catalina versions with all kinds of USB hubs and USB devices), but the monitor works and everything has power supplied to it, including the USB devices.

If I then unplug the dock and replug it, often the mac straight-up crashes completely and shuts down, powering on with an error that it recovered from a problem ( it also does an SMC reset).


The error report later states: "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset".


This reddit thread speaks of the exact same issue with a different monitor and some people with different docks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/i0m9si


Basically, what I'm saying is that the original USB issue is not fixed yet and now it's much worse because:

  1. You can't fix the USB problem unless you restart the mac - re-plugging the devices into the dock won't solve it
  2. The macbook directly crashes and does an SMC reset if you unplug/replug the dock, wiping your unsaved data and crashing anything else you might have open at the time


Additional problem: Monitor sometimes doesn't wake up at all after mac is awoken from sleep. At one point the monitor went to sleep WHILE I was using the mac actively.


I have tried NVRAM/SMC resets and they did nothing.


I wrote an email to CalDigit and they confirmed a lot of other users have complained about this:


"Our engineers have been investigating into the brand new 2020 MacBooks as we’ve had detailed reports from several of our customers who have tried many different brands of docks, from OWC, Kensington, Elgato and ours and none of them have been able to function correctly via the latest chipsets in these Macs."


PLEASE FIX the usb/dock/monitor issues already! This is a problem of Apple devices exclusively. This is unacceptable for a laptop at this price from the year 2020. Cheap off-brand laptops do not have such issues with peripherals!!

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Aug 4, 2020 11:01 AM

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Posted on Dec 7, 2020 12:06 PM

I've been having this issue w/ my 13" 2020 MBP since I started using it a couple of months ago, with different dock models.



TL;DR


  • Issue reproduced on 2 different 13" 2020 MBPs running 10.15.7, one running a clean macOS install (no additional software installed), w/ 2 different TB docks.
  • 13" 2018 MBP works fine in all of the (same) tested configurations.




Details:


Since I have the benefit of having multiple MBPs and docks to test with, I'm (not that folks here require convincing) incredibly confident this issue isn't due to some people having faulty hardware (e.g. logic board, dock, whatever).


  • I was easily able to reproduce the kernel panic ("Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset") on a freshly installed 13” 2020 MBP (clean macOS installation- zero software installed).
  • This is consistently reproduced w/ 2 different 10.15.7 builds ((19H2 and 19H15 - didn't bother to test 19H4 and/or 10.15.6).
  • 10.15.5 (19F2200) works fine.
  • 11.0.1 (20B50 - didn't test 20B29) works fine.


I tested 2 different setups:


  • OWC TB3 dock, with 2 devices connected to it- Dell U2719DC monitor (DisplayPort) and Logitech K120 USB keyboard:


                     +---------+
                     |   MBP   |
                     +----+----+
                          |
                          |
                         TB3
                          |
                          v
                   +------+-------+
                   | OWC TB3 dock |
                   +----+-----+---+
                       |     |
                      USB    DP
+---------------+      |     |      +--------------+
| Logitech K120 +------+     +------+ Dell U2719DC |
+---------------+                   +--------------+



                     +---------+
                     |   MBP   |
                     +----+----+
                          |
                          |
                 Apple TB3/TB2 adapter
                          |
                          v
                 +--------+---------+
                 | Apple TB Display |
                 +------------------+


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Dec 7, 2020 12:10 PM in response to erang27

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Boot (cold or warm, connect to TB3 Dock before or after booting- all variations apply)
  2. Put MacBook to sleep (software- Apple logo -> Sleep)
  3. Wait 1 minute
  4. Disconnect MacBook from dock
  5. Wait 5 minutes
  6. Connect MacBook to dock, which will wake it from sleep
    1. At this point System Report shows none of the connected Dock (USB and other) devices- for examples see SPUSBDataType and SPAudioDataType datatypes.
  7. Wait 1 minute
  8. Disconnect MacBook from dock
  9. Wait 5 minutes
  10. Connect MacBook to dock

Notes:

  1. MacBook sometimes crashes after step #8 (last disconnection), sometimes after #10 (last connection), occasionally crashes after 2-3 iterations (i.e. more than one sleep-disconnect-wake cycle).
  2. The 5-minute wait phases can typically be shorter.





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Feb 22, 2021 2:41 AM in response to BrendanClay

FIXED by upgrade from Catalina to Big Sur 11.2.1


The issues I had:


  1. Intel crash, when plugging in Thunderbolt Apple Display, or when coming out of sleep having had plugged in the Thunderbolt Display whilst sleeping.
  2. System not seeing in built hub in Apple Thunderbolt Display, would only work after a Shutdown/Restart


MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2020, Four Thunderbolt 3 ports) 2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5

Apple Thunderbolt Display (TB2)

Apple Thunderbolt 2>3 adaptor


May 31, 2021 10:06 PM in response to broko_fankone

Same here with Dell WD19TB dock on macOS 10.15.7 (19H1217)


I got two monitors:

  • A: one from USBC/DisplayPort
  • B: one from USB-C==>HDMI.


Problem 1:

When hot plug, only A is recognised. I have to plug out both and replug in B first, wait for it, then plugin A.


Problem 2:

Sometimes, only A monitor is recognised , the rest of ports ( USB hub, ethernet, etc) are missing.


Problem 3:

Frequent crashlog recorded due to unexpected reset message. Usually once a week...



Apple, do something...

Sep 5, 2020 11:48 AM in response to WesleydeSouza

So I have an update/confirmation on this issue


I was still within return period for my MacbookPro 13, 2020. So I exchanged it for a MacBook Pro 16" 2020, and paid the difference. Updated new machine to Catalin 10.15.6 Restored from timemachine backup.


Tried it at the office... Behold it works with the CalDigit usb-c dock! Came back home and connected to my CalDigit usb-c dock, and it works too! Only been running for a day, but all the issues with USB & wireless Logitehc Keyboard/Mouse combo connected via Caldigit dock - have disappeared.


This is def an issue with Macbook Pro 13" / Air and MacOsx Catalina 10.15.6 . Not the the hardware issue with docks.


p.s:

I am a bit disappointed, because I wanted to use a smaller laptop with the replacement, but the annoyance of having to reboot my laptop twice a day to have my external devices work with the dock, and then restoring all my applications to working state, is not worth it. The new macbook pro 16 was only $200 more - smaller drive, but everything else is the same or better. Plus I can use 16 cores instead of 8 when compiling.


Oct 29, 2020 5:39 PM in response to techguy391

I have used Big Sur Beta 10 (the one you are using now) for 2 weeks without any problem, right now I am using Big Sur 11.0.1 (released yesterday) without any problem as well.


2 days ago Apple silently released a new version (print screen below) of Catalina 10.15.7: 19H4 vs 19H2 released a month ago, I haven't tried it yet, but this new version of Catalina might solve the issues with the dock and TB3 displays.


Feb 14, 2021 3:04 AM in response to jsolano91

Essentially, Big Sur 11.1 fixed the main problem (dead USB or crash on reconnecting external LG Ultrafine 5k) for me, too, and 11.2 has not brought back any problems, either :-)


However my sound output selection/AirPlay menu reveals that apparently disconnecting and re-connecting the LG still produces a "zombie" of the monitor's USB audio, see screenshot.


So while for all practical purposes 11.1 allows me to work normally with my LG and external USB devices connected to it, there still seem to be problems related to TB connected peripherals Apple should fix…



Aug 6, 2020 8:41 PM in response to broko_fankone

Also experiencing these very issues with my new 2020 MBP 13. I have my work network cable plugged in to a Caldigit TB mini-dock along with 2 hdmi cables - the monitors usually come back fine (sometimes the screens are out of order), but ethernet and the 2 USBs don't work until I restart. Similarly when using 2 HDMI -> TB cables at home, after waking the laptop from sleep one of the screens will sometimes fail to turn on until i unplug and plug in the cable again. Is it possible this issue was introduced in the most recent update, as I don't recall having this problem when I first received and setup the laptop.

Aug 8, 2020 4:46 AM in response to broko_fankone

I have the exact same problem, only with a HP G2 Thunderbolt Dockingstation. After waking the MBP from sleep no attached USB device is working, only charging and the monitor is working. Trying to replug the Thunderbolt cable the MacBook crashes with the mentioned intel error. I also can not say if the problem is restricted to 10.15.6 since I only used the MacBook since this version.


Really disappointing from such an expensive machine (also the 2020 4TB standard config). I am still in the return window and now have to decide if I trust apple fixing this or if I would be better of sending the MB back....

Aug 9, 2020 12:00 PM in response to cr_torac

So, in the end the support hotline asked me to bring the Macbook to a local service provider, for which I would have to travel to another city, as the local one currently does not accept any personal meetings for service. They still seem to ignore the fact that this is a systematic error, and not just a single hardware failure. Seems Apple does not have a great service management overall.

Aug 10, 2020 3:57 AM in response to VTubes

That's ridiculous. They sell CalDigit docks in their own store AND have received countless Intel crash logs already. They know more than enough to understand what the issue is and are fully capable to conduct a simple test on their own if they need to. It is a widespread issue exactly like the previous USB problem in 10.15.5.


If anyone has the desire to bring them a MBP for testing, go ahead, you might even get a replacement (won't fix the problem). I personally can't do it since there are no Apple stores in my country and there is no way I would mail my computer to another country. The other option is "authorized service" - which I already went to for the previous USB problem with hubs. All they did was inflict physical damage on my macbook pro and returned it to me with fully drained battery (very bad for the battery). I never want to let authorized service touch my computer again if I have a choice. I complained to Apple about the experience and they didn't seem to care at all. For them this was all normal, including the physical damage. It's basically the worst service I have ever received for a computer in my whole life, and I've had computers for the last 17 years. I should have just waited for the 10.15.6 fix, but obviously this "fix" created a brand new issue with TB3 docks. And now the wait begins again.


At this point I hope Apple have started working on a fix, otherwise we'd have to hope for articles to get written again and for the issue to gain more popularity until it is no longer easy to ignore.



MBP 13 2020 won't recognize USB devices from TB dock after sleeping and connecting to the dock. After unplugging the dock MBP crashes and does SMC reset

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