IOS14 severe battery drain on SE

I'll make it simple to understand. Most companies are not so stupid as to put a huge building on a small foundation. Do you think customers using 1st gen iPhone SEs *chose* to upgrade to iOS 14? Apple practically made it impossible to do otherwise, and their "information" on the subject told the customers that iOS 14/14.2/14.3/14.4 would be an improvement. I regretfully propose that such practices could easily lead to Apple degrading quickly and eventually falling to ruins. Try to think more practically. Apple could easily have notified their 1st SE owners that they should stop at iOS 13 -- if Apple cared about the customers that aren't frittering their money away on the latest and greatest.

“...iOS 14 is extremely hard on an older iPhones hardware...”

No it isnt.

Iphones 6S and 7 for example use a smaller download size because they do not use a lot of it.

My 6S goes like a rocket and lasts several days on standby with a 83% capacity battery.

ios14.4

You are responding to the wrong person . Maybe someone further up the thread?

Yes batteries run down because of what is installed. I have been preaching that for years!

Animosity is not unusual on this forum, I have seen a lot over the last 8 years. Human nature. Most of the two billion owners are happy!

Yes I have used that method myself. Although it is no longer recommended it is great when it does work.

New myths replace old myths. You can safely run down to zero% occasionally but it is unwise to leave it that way for long periods eg many hours.

There is not much you can do to damage iphone batteries but getting rid of whatever is energy hungry is the way to get more hours per day.

Correct. The exploit first entered the system in iOS13. You cannot artificially hold phones back.

Phones that can only get ios12 still get security updates where needed.

Phones still on 13 will not be safe.

If ios15 will not run on, say, iphones 6S and 7 then they will get security updates on ios14 along eith newer phones on ios15.

I beg to differ on your definition of truth. I have worked with Apple support at great length, with details on on my battery usage and health provided, on this and other problems with no success. Detailing real problems that Apple seems unwilling to admit has become not worth my time. Apple has lost a customer. I doubt that matters to you or to Apple. Just pray that my case is rare, and that the related cases don't add up over time, and that my particular iPhone was an exceptional lemon. Does that count as my "own issue"?

I am not the original poster, but really appreciate your insight. I understand that older phones are less capable of handling newer systems. But mine was going fine with 14 until 14.4. Any way to back out of this latest update? I know that a new phone is the best solution, but I simply can't afford it right now. I'd like to have at least the phone I had two days ago until I can! Thanks so much for being helpful rather than acting like it's a stupid question, as happened on another thread about the same issue.

iphones 6S or newer run just as well on 14.4 as they did on 14.0 or 13.0

Anyone who ever had ios13 installed must update to 14.4 to avoid the zero day vulnerability in any browser that uses webkit, (which is all if them.)

No you cannot de-update.

Not charging

Take look at the article below with some troubleshooting steps to help with what you've been experiencing.

If your iPhone or iPod touch won't charge

then

https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service

Ah right, now the offending sentence has gone I will continue.

88% capacity at 3 years means either her phone has been charged far less than a FULL charge per day or she has been extremely lucky/careful.

is there any solution to this problem? because i have the same issue right now. The iPhone SE (1st Gen) indicate 91% battery health, but it doesn't last in AN HOUR!! it will drain the battery to 10% in 50+ min of light usage.

Thanks, for your reply and advice, Olicanian! I already had my battery changed in the Apple store - that was the first thing I did. But when I got the phone back I still couldn't charge it. The battery is new and good, that doesn't seem to be the problem. This is why I brought the phone back to the store but they had no problems charging it, they said, but they also said they used a charger with 'more power' (whatever that means exactly they didn't tell me). I tried to order an 30 watt charger but they're out of stock in the Apple stores here so I have to wait or try other shops and hope they sell Apple licensed chargers. But I wonder why the phone I charged for years with 'normal' chargers now should need a 'more powerful' one...

The ios may have some charging control in it but I have a 6S of the same vintage as your SE1, virtually the same phone, on ios14 and it charges completely well within 2 hours on a 10W brick.

After that many years use, further repairs will be uneconomical so it may be time for a new phone and keep the SE1 as a spare.

That’s not quite right. The measure of the battery charge is a milliamp-hour measurement. It is related to voltage by Ohm’s law, but it is not a voltage measurement. With voltage alone you can’t determine how much charge is stored in a battery.

I live in UK too and I am fully aware of the Consumer Protection Act and it only applies if there were a defect in manufacturing or a known inherent defect in the batteries. There is no evidence of that in the public domain.

You have 6 years to make a claim in court, but be warned there is a clause which allows the retailer (you must have bought it from Apple to claim from them) to subtract any years of use from the expected life of a consumable or the product itself.

Most people would expect an iphone to last 3-4 years and a battery for 18 - 24 months.

If a phone failed completely in 18 months you might win a claim in a UK court for maybe 1/3 of the cost of replacement if you won the case.

So if say your phone is 3 years old you have no reasonable expectation of even partial recompense for a new battery, because 3 years is greater than 24 months.

Under international Apple warranty the battery is not warranted but if you have a better barrister than Apple then by all means put in a Small Claim in your local county court. You would have to prove that an upgrade caused the defect with technical evidence and the judge would decide between your evidence and that of Apple, always assuming the judge accepted the case which is unlikely with the age of the device.

Now please carry out the two tests I indicated then come back, preferably in a new thread..