USB 3.0 Hub Broken on Mac OS Monterey 12.0.1

Hey,

I think are Ikling and XSPUS hubs are hosed with this release of Monterey.

I gave up and bought 2 new hubs to test; TSUPY 10:1 and Falwedi 10:1, both worked. (I have 2 XSPUS hubs and both were bricked).

I have spent all day trying to get the hub to work no luck the last thing apple support told me was to go back to Big Sur but on looking up how to do it you need A USB DRIVE but the hub that I use to do the usb drive is not working so how can I do what is needed to go back to Big Sur. you need to create a bootable installer on a thumb drive. is there any other way to do it? if not the Hub I bought about a month ago looks like it is no good on my Mac book pro works fine on my I Mac desk top running Monterey.still have a email to ikling but don't think they will get back to me till Monday. Will post if they can help or find a way to get the hub working.

One thing is sure: most accessories, today, are from strange brands which mostly don't meet the required quality standards especially as tecnologies move continuosly versus higher and higher performance and then standards' requirements. I recently had problems with Softraid's kext loading and looked a sw problem. Solved with a usb-c cable among 4. With the other 3, didn't work. All sold as per high quality usb-c cables.

So: where are the problems, sometimes...(?)

(In response to everybody...)

Nope. Electronics (as the human body, for example) are very complex systems. We cannot think with "simple" thoughts. Of course, I'm hoping for all you fellows in trouble that's a bug ans update will solve as changing the hardware is expensive. That said, I would have never have switched to a newly released OS version before reading about it around the web. Personally, i did it because I had enrolled the Public Beta program and found that PB 10 and 12.01 RC1 and 2 solved all my unsolvable problems in Big Sur (here is an M1 machine, BTW).

Good luck.

Just to add, a close look at a lot of these odd named USB docks/hubs one will see that a lot have exactly the same ports in exactly the same position, just with a different case wrapping the same circuit board. Since they are all using the same chipsets and one exhibits an issue, then all the variations will likely see the problem.

Unfortunately, most of the vendors of these hubs have no expertise or even knowledge of what is going on inside and cannot provide any help or firmware updates, if it is even possible with these designs.

I have a M1 MacBook Air with an external Philips276C monitor with Power Delivery. Since update to Monterey, the screen works fine, but there is no power delivery. A senior apple advisor tolt me that the Philips needs a firmware update. Contacted Philips and they said that this isn't possible. Senior Advisor tolt me that this isn't a Apple problem....

I have a similar problem with a DELL K16A dock that used to work fine with my M1 MacBook Air with Big Sur.

After I updated to Monterey, the external display can't find the signal.

The dock has a HDMI, DisplayPort and a MiniDP and none of them work.

The USB-ports and power distribution do work.

I also have an Apple USB&HDMI dock and it work, but there is only one USB-A port in it.

Same problem here. MacBook Pro 2017 Intel. VAVA hub perfectly working with Big Sur as well as the other 3 USB C ports with several peripherals (external SSD's etc.).

With Monterey installed Saturday:

no USB data exchange on hub

no USB C port working with two different peripherals.

I spent Sunday afternoon to happily downgrade back to Big Sur.

Everything is working perfectly again.

Ohhhh Apple .....

I have a similar problem using a Philips display (346p1crh). Everything works except PD on my 16“ 2021 running 12.0.1. When i restart my MacBook, PD works. After plugging it out and in again PD stops working

Same issue after upgrading MacBook Air M1 to Mac OS Monterey 12.0.1. USB 3.0 fails on two different multiport hubs (Choetech and MINIX). Works with a simple straight-thru USB-C<>USB-A converter.

I have a brand new 16in MacBook Pro M1Pro and my Apple usb keyboard via usb-c dongle works intermittently and I have some ports that don’t work at all

i am very close to returning my new laptop as I don’t want a$3000 computer that only

partially works

Same here, waited to upgrade to minimize risk for issues and didn't run into this thread until after I upgraded and my USB peripherals stopped working on my hub. Worked fine on previous OSX, broken immediately after Monterey. Macbook Air M1 Late 2020

I sadly feel like Apple has finally gone to amateur hour. This was a known bug in the Beta version of Monterey and yet they still released this with this major flaw. We don't have time to wait for them to work on this. This is the kind of thing that can render many people near useless.

They have already cut the number of USB-C ports with the newer mac book pro's (M1's specifically). USB-C is already next to impossible to stack multiple items using hubs (unlike USB 3.0). I think 4 were the most USB-C's I could find at the $160 range in the USA and one of them was to power the hub and one to go to the mac, which means you only got 2 ports out of it. Hubs like these are hard to find and very expensive.

So the fact that most of us are dependent on hubs as part of our lives now, why would they release this knowing it is a problem that would cause this much havoc on the users?

So, we now have USB 3.0 ports that have stopped working, many external drives inoperable, and have little to no way to daisy chain enough hubs to function normally. I have never written anything with such frustration about Apple before, but this is was just wrong. This was too big of a problem to let this one slip by and not be upfront about this. I tore my studio up trying to figure this out and then I saw these articles explaining it: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/29/monterey-usb-hub-issues-reported/, https://www.imore.com/usb-hub-not-working-macos-monterey-youre-not-alone, https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/10/29/apples-macos-monterey-causes-problems-with-some-usb-devices-hubs

I am for the first time, not happy with the way Apple has handled an issue with their products. And I am a patient person, now without external hard drives, a studio mic for live streams, and the ability to connect simple devices to interact with my 13" M1 2020 MacBook (supposed) Pro.

Donovan1 wrote:

I sadly feel like Apple has finally gone to amateur hour. This was a known bug in the Beta version of Monterey and yet they still released this with this major flaw. We don't have time to wait for them to work on this. This is the kind of thing that can render many people near useless.

They have already cut the number of USB-C ports with the newer mac book pro's (M1's specifically). USB-C is already next to impossible to stack multiple items using hubs (unlike USB 3.0). I think 4 were the most USB-C's I could find at the $160 range in the USA and one of them was to power the hub and one to go to the mac, which means you only got 2 ports out of it. Hubs like these are hard to find and very expensive.

So the fact that most of us are dependent on hubs as part of our lives now, why would they release this knowing it is a problem that would cause this much havoc on the users?

So, we now have USB 3.0 ports that have stopped working, many external drives inoperable, and have little to no way to daisy chain enough hubs to function normally. I have never written anything with such frustration about Apple before, but this is was just wrong. This was too big of a problem to let this one slip by and not be upfront about this. I tore my studio up trying to figure this out and then I saw these articles explaining it: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/29/monterey-usb-hub-issues-reported/, https://www.imore.com/usb-hub-not-working-macos-monterey-youre-not-alone, https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/10/29/apples-macos-monterey-causes-problems-with-some-usb-devices-hubs

I am for the first time, not happy with the way Apple has handled an issue with their products. And I am a patient person, now without external hard drives, a studio mic for live streams, and the ability to connect simple devices to interact with my 13" M1 2020 MacBook (supposed) Pro.

FWIW, I have a Belkin Multimedia Hub connected to my M1 MacBook Air. On on of its USB ports I have an SSD attached. The other USB port, I have a Sabrent 7 port USB 3 hub connected with 2 SSDs and 1 HDD connected to it. The hub alohas power passing to my MacBook Air. All 4 drives are working perfectly well with one being a Time Machine drive which is being accessed every hour. The drives: 2 Samsung 500GB T7, one SSD in a Startech Usb 3 enclosure, a Seagate 500 GB HDD.

So, not all hubs are failing to work and not all drives are failing to be recognized and not all systems are unable to stack hubs.

What hub are you using? Is it one of the zillion look alike or a different wrapper around the same port configurations? Or is it mad by a company that is known for building docks and hubs of literal decades.

I can confirm it is happening in intel MacBook Pro (2018) after update to Monterrey. Looking for an answer is what brought me here. Everything I have attached to that hub is acting up. Ethernet out but old USB receiver for my Wacom tablet is working. Sound is hit or miss. And there have also been unrelated Bluetooth issues. Everything was fine before update.