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Songs View Jumping to Random Spots After Action

Since the update to Monterey I've been experiencing some weird behavior when adding songs to a playlist (or editing info of a song/album). It seems as soon as Apple Music is done making changes, it just randomly decides to jump to a different spot in my current view.


Example: In the Library - Songs view, I went to an album by the artist "Dave". I selected the 12 songs from the album, two-finger click, Add to Last Playlist, and the Songs view jumps down to Jeezy. Do the same thing for a Turnstile album and it jumps down to Various Artists.


All of my playlists are in the "Songs" view (because the default Playlist view is absolutely worthless), so I cannot say whether this happens in other views.


Another, slightly less annoying bug, is that when using the keyboard to jump to the artist you want (in the example above typing "Dave") the first matching song is highlighted at the bottom of the view, instead of the top as it's been since... forever.


Am I the only experiencing/annoyed by these two bugs?





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Posted on Oct 30, 2021 1:56 PM

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Posted on Jul 28, 2022 11:39 PM

2 issues will rectify itself if you turn off 'Sync Library' in Music > Preferences > General


  1. No more auto jumping in Songs playlist after any editing action
  2. The Now Playing menu bar will behave as expected; as in it will show the playing time and remaining time & the scrubber will show accordingly where you are in the music track


As soon as you turn it back on, these 2 issues return.


I've submitted a bug report via Apple Feedback

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Jul 28, 2022 11:39 PM in response to jrdave2304

2 issues will rectify itself if you turn off 'Sync Library' in Music > Preferences > General


  1. No more auto jumping in Songs playlist after any editing action
  2. The Now Playing menu bar will behave as expected; as in it will show the playing time and remaining time & the scrubber will show accordingly where you are in the music track


As soon as you turn it back on, these 2 issues return.


I've submitted a bug report via Apple Feedback

Nov 4, 2021 4:19 AM in response to jrdave2304

You are not alone. I've been hard rating songs in playlists and everytime I edit a song's rating it jumps to a random other place in the playlist. Very frustrating! Also, when I press command+L to jump to the current song, the song is displayed at the bottom of the playlist where it used to be at the top. I have reported the bug on https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-music.html


Hope Apple fixes these issues in the next update! :)

Nov 11, 2021 8:42 AM in response to jrdave2304

I'm finding the Music app is very buggy.


Songs View: Making changes to a selection drops the view down to the very bottom of the list, forcing me to scroll back up to the artist I was making changes to.


Songs View: Music app won't remember how I want to sort (Album by Artist/Year). I have to sort the column manually every time I launch the app. (I've had this issue since Big Sur.)


Spacial Audio says it's not available. I'm using a MacBook Air M1 2020.


In "Get Info" view, when changing the genre I have to select the genre. I used to be able to start typing a genre and it would auto recognize. Auto recognize doesn't work since Monterey upgrade.


Bottom scroll bar is always there... even when there's nothing to scroll left and right for.


I've submitted feedback to Apple.

Jun 7, 2022 12:13 PM in response to jrdave2304

..after this lengthy duration one should grasp the better idea would be to address Apple directly..


• Product Feedback - Apple

//www.apple.com/feedback/ [-a main portal of entry-]


Chose a most likely candidate; which then should open the Feedback Form

where you can enter; to tell Apple the problem ~ or detail a suggested fix.

(When Apple so decides, it then may use your info entered, to contact you.)


Jul 20, 2022 6:09 PM in response to Blair Jr

Please report your ongoing findings, directly to Apple Inc. here.


As newer Systems evolve & are constantly being altered; their

missions refined, also the Hardware is too. Given vast numbers

of global issues that each individual faces, please give it a try.


• Product Feedback - Apple

//www.apple.com/feedback/


"Apple strives to bring the best personal computing experience to

students, educators, creative professionals, and consumers around the

world through its innovative hardware, software, and internet offerings.


"Apple welcomes your feedback on its products. Begin by selecting a

product.." (Please choose from selection that follows.)


For example, to address issues with Apple Music, one may try:

• Feedback - Apple Music - Apple

//www.apple.com/feedback/apple-music.html

[.You may also find a 'better suited' area among macOS; etc.]


..As a fellow product & systems user, as a Volunteer; the Feedback

channel may relieve my email, and flow-back from my one post..


Feb 1, 2022 10:57 PM in response to GeoffreyFourmyle

In another thread, with a very persistent software issue that Apple didn’t care about, it seemed to help that someone took it to 9to5Mac to publish a story https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251905264?answerId=254688053022#254688053022


Anyone wants to do that? I cannot as I only rarely encounter the issue now, only when importing audio files while processing audio levels in the background - otherwise okay.

Feb 2, 2022 12:49 AM in response to jrdave2304

After working with Music in this buggy state for the past couple of months it seems that the view jumping after changes are made to your library is directly related to the cloud music library.


The view jumping is an irritation but I've realised that when the view jumps, it is actually confirmation that the changes I make are successfully synched to the cloud music library. The opposite is also true, when the view doesn't jump after making changes it indicates that changes made are not successfully being synched to your cloud music library (i.e. the next time you open the Music app it seems all changes you made previously were lost, this is because it didn't properly sync to your cloud music library).


For a workaround to this issue please see my post at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253505541?answerId=256740907022#256740907022 (here I use deleting songs as an example, but the same goes for changing the star rating of a song to test whether your cloud library is successfully synching from your Mac).


Hope this is helpful to someone else as well ;)

Dec 13, 2021 11:01 AM in response to jrdave2304

Apple has made viewing your library in song view as difficult as possible. This bug has put me over my limit. In addition to the random jumping, the following changes have been killing me slowly and after 20 years of sticking with it, I'm now looking for an alternative:

  • (as mentioned by others) Command+L goes to song playing but changes view to album view, so it's kinda useless if you're viewing as songs. This worked in iTunes.
  • No ability to view album artwork in song view (visual queues are super helpful). This was available in iTunes.
  • Standard search goes to album view. Song search (aka filtering) is not nearly as easily accessible. Again, this worked in iTunes.
  • Cannot rename playlist via right-click. Only in the (oversized) header. This also worked in iTunes.
  • A way to choose the default view of playlists, rather than having to change each one.


Basically, Apple Music feels like a big downgrade, and buggy AF. Ironic because iTunes was spun off into separate apps because it was so bloated : (

Jan 4, 2022 11:33 PM in response to KevinFinner

Lossless playback: maybe not, iTunes Match syncing: who knows, maybe?


I am using lossless playback to Sonos speakers, not of Apple Music but instead of locally-stored owned CDs that we ripped to Apple Lossless (ALAC).


I have 2 distinct macOS local accounts:

  • one with the Apple Music service, for the purpose of listening to just about anything,
  • another one with that 30K-song library without Apple Music service nor iTunes Match that I stopped using because it proved too unpredictable, and also for the purpose of being able to sync that local library to our iPhones (instead of badly-matched Music cloud tracks).


Strangely enough, the jumping problem in Songs view occurred on both macOS accounts, then seemed to stop in both accounts around the same time, as if they had shared a common problem, then not.


I had initially come to this thread to report & seek some help, and as I had prepared my initial post, I thought I should check again the problem and saw it had stopped. It doesn’t seem like I found the reason, sadly, but I’m happy to discuss any difference in configuration or environment if that may help.

Aug 25, 2022 7:34 AM in response to jrdave2304

Hopefully this helps:


I've found that while in the Songs area if you add the "Cloud Status" column SOME of the problems get better. For example: the screen still jumps after making a change BUT now the up/down arrow solution that returns you to currently playing works again!


This is working for me - your mileage may vary - but Apple seriously does need to fix this fully.

Songs View Jumping to Random Spots After Action

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