Google threatens cutoff of gmail access on 5/30/2022

I've got back to gmail in Mac Mail with Sierra, but my wife's old Macbook can't do it with Mavericks. I checked at with a Mavericks partition on my newer Mac, and it couldn't change to get gmail now.

Is Mavericks Mail too old to authenticate as Google wants it now? Would upgrading to Yosemite be enough (thats as far as the Macbook can go)?

Gordon

Dutyhog wrote:

I've got back to gmail in Mac Mail with Sierra, but my wife's old Macbook can't do it with Mavericks. I checked at with a Mavericks partition on my newer Mac, and it couldn't change to get gmail now.

Is Mavericks Mail too old to authenticate as Google wants it now? Would upgrading to Yosemite be enough (thats as far as the Macbook can go)?

Gordon

You can always access GMAIL via a web browser. There is no need to use Apple Mail if your operating systems are that old and the interface does not work well anymore.

Today, a few Gmail addresses stopped working in Mail. They have asked that I log in through a browser on the Google mail site. I In Thunderbird, both of my (business website) dot com email addresses were set to use Google as a server (rather than my shared server specific information for my website). My iPhone is going off. I'll bet that is registering Gmail issues as well. Several months ago, Google required me to sign in to Google mail through Safari. They make it look like there is a security issue. I assumed someone had tried to log in to my accounts (gmail used for public matters, retail purchases, etc). I complied only because I thought I would lose access to my mail accounts. Google then repopulated my desktop Mail application with new mailboxes for each email, distinguished from the prior Mail account listings by the Google icon. Since then, I have had (1) junk mail show up in Mail for the first time, ever; (2) junk mail show up with regular mail in my inbox; (3) mail from established contacts appear in junk mail, etc. How is Gmail making my correspondence more secure??

[Following. For me, the whole point of using the Mail client is that it provided real security, such as preventing junk from appearing anywhere in the client. Hope someone--especially Apple--has answers. May have to post on Twitter to see if anyone is paying attention to these user issues.]

The problem is with Gmail. Apple mail was affected as a result of Gmail's insistence that I log in to their web-based mail to "verify" my account.

I, too, see junk mail when using the web version of Gmail. That is precisely why I don't like to use it.

Sure. You'll likely use an application password or authenticate when adding your account. That's quite normal and what most users do now.

I had to do something with AOL (verizon) several months ago with the same threatening email. That seemed to have worked. Funny, I trust Apple more than I trust Google.

Email plans with various providers start at ~ $2/month and go up from there with more features.

Thanks - concerned more about space than duration, and I don't want duplicates of each email over the past 15 years - first POP and now IMAP re-downloading them all.

Yep - happens even when Auto-Expunge is turned off in gmail settings. This is ridiculous. Don't know why POP gmail can't be set up on Mac Mail using Sign In with Google.

Nothing unusual about this, Apple did the exact same thing with their two factor authentication system. It's just a business decision based on perceived security threats. ... and their latest whim.