"Enter your passcode to trust this computer and start a backup." Every time iPhone is on charge.

After the upgrade to iOS 16.1 from iOS 15.7, with no other changes to my paired iMac, my iPhones now both routinely ask me to type in my passcode to trust this computer and start a backup. This happens whenever the device is put on charge, even if only to AC power, and the sync and backup happens over Wi-Fi. Why, and how do I put a stop to it so it goes back to the iOS 15 and expected behaviour of doing the sync and backup over Wi-Fi automatically and immediately when the device is put on charge?


I've looked around and tried various solutions, all to nothing. I reset privacy and network settings, repaired over USB, restarted everything, etc. It's still happening.

iPhone 13 Pro Max, iOS 16

Posted on Oct 31, 2022 2:20 PM

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Jan 1, 2023 5:42 PM in response to Hayg

As it is obvious that you haven’t read the thread and don’t understand the reason for the change, here it is again:


Apple changed the way that worked because of a recently discovered vulnerability that would allow a hacker to create an unprotected backup of an iOS device without the knowledge of the owner, so Apple add a requirement to always require a passcode to be entered on the phone before backing up to a computer. This to assure that the backup was intentional.


If you want details you can find them in these two links:



Nov 27, 2022 7:44 AM in response to Michael Graziano

I guess you didn’t read the thread you posted to.

Michael Graziano wrote:

Forcing me to type in my passcode to back up to a computer I am physically connected to and have previously trusted for syncing other content might make sense ONCE.

Requiring it EVERY TIME is beyond idiotic. It makes automatic backups to your Mac error-prone (miss the prompt and the backup times out, meaning you don't get a backup that day).

The reason it is required for computer backups is because there is an identified vulnerability that has been seen in the wild that would allow a bad actor to back up, and then gain access to the backup on a computer, as reported in the National Vulnerability Database→https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-32929

and as described in a “how to" here→https://theevilbit.github.io/posts/cve-2022-32929/


Essentially, any computer that has been hacked (which is roughly half of all Windows computers, and a smaller, but significant, number of Macs) can be used to get a copy of the iPhone’s backup. If the backup is not encrypted it is trivially easy to get most of the content of the phone. If it is encrypted, it’s harder, but, as there is no limit to the number of guesses of the backup password it is always possible to set up an automated process to guess the password.


And the reason just asking for it once is inadequate is because the hacker can run their hack after the passcode has been entered that one time.


It is a FACT that this vulnerability exists and has been used by criminal hackers.


Nov 2, 2022 8:12 AM in response to LD150

But I need sync. That's how I get my (non-iTunes) audiobooks onto my devices. (If there were another way to do that and still use Books.app, I'd do it.)


Perhaps inevitably though, it apparently isn't to do with sync at all. I can reliably avoid seeing the prompt by switching to iCloud backups; it's only when a backup starts that I get this prompt. It makes no sense, but there it is. Switching to iCloud Backup (hopefully temporarily, as it's a privacy cost and less good than local backup) "fixes" the issue, for now.

Nov 22, 2022 7:52 AM in response to Jaimito_November11

The reason it isn’t required for iCloud backup has nothing to do with absurd conspiracy theories; it’s because iCloud backups are protected by your Apple ID password and 2 factor authentication.


The reason it is required for computer backups is because there is an identified vulnerability that has been seen in the wild that would allow a bad actor to back up, and then gain access to the backup on a computer, as reported in the National Vulnerability Database→https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-32929

and as described in a “how to" here→https://theevilbit.github.io/posts/cve-2022-32929/


Essentially, any computer that has been hacked (which is roughly half of all Windows computers, and a smaller, but significant, number of Macs) can be used to get a copy of the iPhone’s backup. If the backup is not encrypted it is trivially easy to get most of the content of the phone. If it is encrypted, it’s harder, but, as there is no limit to the number of guesses of the backup password it is always possible to set up an automated process to guess the password.


And the reason just asking for it once is inadequate is because the hacker can run their hack after the passcode has been entered that one time.



Nov 24, 2022 8:58 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Lawrence Finch wrote:

The reason it isn’t required for iCloud backup has nothing to do with absurd conspiracy theories; it’s because iCloud backups are protected by your Apple ID password and 2 factor authentication.

The reason it is required for computer backups is because there is an identified vulnerability that has been seen in the wild that would allow a bad actor to back up, and then gain access to the backup on a computer, as reported in the National Vulnerability Database→https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-32929
and as described in a “how to" here→https://theevilbit.github.io/posts/cve-2022-32929/

Essentially, any computer that has been hacked (which is roughly half of all Windows computers, and a smaller, but significant, number of Macs) can be used to get a copy of the iPhone’s backup. If the backup is not encrypted it is trivially easy to get most of the content of the phone. If it is encrypted, it’s harder, but, as there is no limit to the number of guesses of the backup password it is always possible to set up an automated process to guess the password.

And the reason just asking for it once is inadequate is because the hacker can run their hack after the passcode has been entered that one time.

This is all very convenient, as rationalisations go, but I fear that it strains credulity that Apple's backup encryption, well-studied and independently-implemented as it is by many third parties, is so weak as to be unusable for its intended purpose; if it were, local backup encryption would simply be impossible. Incredible, too, is the notion that Apple, a company that understands the case for keeping private data private, would somehow exempt itself from consideration in the event of an attack on its own infrastructure, where your backups are stored--backups that are, in any event, encrypted by Apple, but not by yourself--without giving the user a choice of a local, genuinely encrypted option. (In fact, your passcode does most of the heavy lifting in iCloud to protect a tiny fraction of the data, not your iCloud credentials; your iCloud Keychain holds sensitive keys protected in part by your passcode, but when disabled, the keychain is still protected in your backup by the device hardware key, but is then non-transferrable to other devices. Local backups are simply superior for data portability, which may be another good reason they're still useful at all. You could read Apple's Platform Security Guide, if you like, for all the detail.)


So if it's true that this behaviour is not ultimately beneficial to Apple's bottom line, and that this change is being made purely on technical merit, I hope you have a suggestion for how best to use iCloud storage without paying for it first. :)

Dec 1, 2022 2:31 PM in response to StMiBa


StMiBa wrote:

Are you saying that in order for my personal data to be secure, I should delete the backup that is currently stored on my Macbook? Is that seriously what you are saying?

If that's the case, why should I bother to backup my data?

What I hear you saying is, "I have no idea what the problem is or how to fix it and neither does Apple but Apple assures me that if I enter my passcode in order to initiate a new backup, I'm secure."

It’s clear that you haven’t read the thread. Your iOS backup is saved in protected storage on your Mac or PC that only you can access. The security vulnerability allows a hacker to create a new backup of your device in storage that is not protected, then download the backup to their computer to analyze. They could do this for any device that just once “trusted” the computer. Apple has blocked this vulnerability by requiring a passcode on the phone each time it is backed up. I suspect this is a temporary fix for this vulnerability until they can find a better one. If it was just hypothetical I doubt Apple would have rushed out this fix, but the code to perform this hack has been published for anyone to see. There’s even a link to it in this thread if you want to try it.

Dec 20, 2022 5:04 PM in response to Jaimito_November11

The real reason is so a hacker cannot force a download of your iPhone without your knowledge and steal all of your personal data from the downloaded backup. But your conspiracy theory is so much more fun.


Here’s the explanation from a disinterested 3rd party→iOS Backup Passcode Prompt-iMazing


And here’s the explanation from the discoverer of this vulnerability→https://theevilbit.github.io/posts/cve-2022-32929/



Dec 26, 2022 5:39 AM in response to tm6566

Apple changed the way that worked because of a recently discovered vulnerability that would allow a hacker to create an unprotected backup of an iOS device without the knowledge of the owner, so Apple add a requirement to always require a passcode to be entered on the phone before backing up to a computer. This to assure that the backup was intentional.


If you want details you can find them in these two links:



Jan 3, 2023 3:57 AM in response to sgucukoglu

I finally disabled automatic sync and backup. Whatever (highly dubious, in my considered opinion) rationale is presented as defence for this aberrant change, it certainly isn't worth my time to keep entering my passcode. In truth, I only need sync for Audiobooks, and you can perform a sync from the computer on demand and still skip the backup by pressing Cancel in the warning. And the backups clearly aren't critical enough to keep off-site at cost in storage and privacy, at least not for me; all my important data is externally available in files on my disks or in encrypted cloud backups on macOS, and worst comes to worst I can simply set my device up fresh, from scratch. Done it before; will do it again if necessary. If I need the convenience of a migration, I can now do it direct from device to device, or make a backup just beforehand. It's a shame I can't have automatic backup, but there we are. Adapt, move on. iOS simply can't enjoy the same security as my desktop Macs for the reliability of data, as things now stand. If I ever need to buy more iCloud storage, I might consider iCloud again when ADP gets here. And if Apple fixes this, well, of course I will be the first to celebrate. Meanwhile, I recommend anyone else in my situation simply disable automatic sync, and not back up. I hate to recommend that, but I genuinely think it's the best option for now.

Nov 10, 2022 5:40 PM in response to sgucukoglu

I wouldn’t expect 16.1.1 to fix it, because it isn’t a problem with 16.anything. It is a problem with your phone. Hundreds of millions of phones do not have this problem. You need to troubleshoot what is special about your your phone and computer that is causing this very unusual problem. Have you tried going to iTunes Preferences, Advanced pane, and clicked Reset Warnings? And have you also updated iTunes to the latest version?

Nov 28, 2022 4:19 AM in response to markhind

markhind wrote:

This is everything to do with 16.1 because it didn't happen before I upgraded to 16.1 on my iPhone. Is there another solution as I need to "automatically sync when this iPhone is connected" every time I connect my iPhone to my MacBook Pro?

If you don't like being requested for the passcode then take off the auto sync checkbox.

This mainly only affects people who get the unnecessary code request when plugging the iphone in a power brick - the original text of the original question - in which case take off the Show when on wi-fi checkbox.


The extra security is here to stay unless a lot of people write to https://apple.com/feedback and I doubt if the numbers will stack up because most people like additional security when the evidence shows that data has already been stolen in the wild.

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