Problem saving print presets in Ventura

I am using a Mac Pro with Mac OS 13.2, an HP DesignJet Z9+ 44" and an Epson SureColor P600, over local ethernet network for the Z9+ or USB connection for the P600. I fear I am going to have to downgrade my Mac Pro back to Mac OS Catalina to get back to consistently working print dialog and presets. I was foolish enough to think Apple would not break important features in their upgrades to the OS. I wanted to have the enhanced Apple ID/iCloud security that Ventura added, but not at the expense of useable photo print quality.

It's shocking that Apple engineers did not test this software to make sure any new features did not break core functionality. Not just for photographers but for business users too. The Ventura print preset disfunctionality also messed up printing to our Xerox color copier at work. I had to photocopy a singe-sided printout of a safety manual at work to make up a couple of binders for users because the PDF would not print-double sided due to the Ventura "upgrade" to the print dialog breaking the printer features I had been using fine in Monterey. This has to be happening to a lot of people.

Having this problem in macOS 14.2.1, going to try the Print System Reset but don't expect anything to help.

I do a lot of printing via shell scripts and it seems like those settings are being honored, but need to do some further testing. Might be a workaround for this, until Apple deems this problem worthy of solving sometime in the next decade.

Thank you apalca,

My Bad! You reminded me: first step -- set ICC profile in LR. That important step I had spaced out. Now to do some test printing.

I am seeing the same problem under Ventura 16.1 and 16.2.

I am using a Canon Imageprograf 1000 printer with a RIP driver Printfab.

I have repeatedly (dozens) of times tried to save various print settings to no avail.

This is a rather significant problem as it leads to lots of lost paper.

Help please.

Bill

For example, when using Printfab with a Canon PRO-1000 printer, I am unable to get any Printfab settings to save. Specifically I have noticed it with print resolution, color space, paper type, etc. I cannot even get it to keep the settings to make one print.

I have tried resetting the print system on MacOS. This did not change the behavior. I.e., I am still unable to get Printfab settings to save in a print preset. This includes print resolution, color space, paper type, etc.

I am unable to print anything, even on a one time basis at this point, and have it end up with the correct resolution, color space, etc. This is a significant problem for my operation.

Currently running Printfab 2.98-1 which is the latest version for Ventura.

Bill

Bernie,

That is a good idea. Given this situation has not yet been resolved and the inability to work on a Mac otherwise, I think I will try that too.

This is a major problem for professional users.

Thanks,

Bill

I read about this issue a lot and I can confirm it. But when I contacted Apple support, they told me they have never hear of it. Apple just released Ventura 13.3 but they tell me nothing has been changed with the printer drivers and settings.

Apparently, no one prints photos in Mac Ventura OS! We must be the only ones! :-). I haven't even been able to find any in depth tutorials on using the Ventura print dialog and ICC profile settings when printing photos either from LR CC, PS, On1 PR or any other photo editor or even just printing directly from the print driver. I read something on the Adobe forums about Epson not placing the ICC profiles in the correct directory in Ventura for use with editors like Lightroom and On1 Photo Raw only in the color sync directory I have not looked into that possibility yet. But the profiles do seem to be working when soft proofing, so I'm not sure if that is correct info.

Re: Apple and Epson support employees: I had the impression those that I dealt with were just using "boilerplate" and stock answers from their computers. The apple support person said he checked with a developer and that person said their had been no reports of problems with the Ventura print driver. If professional photographers are reporting these issues, how can it be that Apple and Epson developers know nothing about it?

I've just reported it - I didn't need to sign in as a developer. I titled it 'Printer Presets broken in Ventura - and still not working with 13.3.'

I got an acknowledgement saying 'Recent Similar Reports:None'. NOT a good sign.

Please everyone: follow Steven's advice!

Indeed these issues are very surprising to me, as I always understood Apple Mac to be the computer of choice to the publishing and visual arts community. Microsoft seems to be more entrenched in the business world. Doing my homework recently on photo printing, I seem to be finding more using MS Windows than Mac. I'm sure it's difficult for these companies to ensure their operating systems work with third party hardware and software. I think MS has more of a challenge in that regard than Apple and yet they don't seem to be having these type of issues with photo printers. I'm assuming newer Epson and Canon printers are having the same problems, but that an assumption and I really don't know.

Hopefully Apple is able to fix these bugs soon.