How to Turn Off Login Items Notifications?

Hi, running Ventura 13.1 on Mac Mini M1. I do not know how it happened but now every time I boot up, the right side of the screen is filled with these "Login Items Notification" messages. See screenshot. I have deleted unnecessary login items, disabled all apps running in the background, turned off all notifications in System Settings. Nothing worked. And I found nothing helpful when searching online, so maybe someone can tell me how to turn these **** things off.



Here is where I turned off all background updates and notifications


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Posted on Jan 2, 2023 8:50 AM

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Mar 22, 2023 7:23 AM in response to Barney-15E

Come off it, Barney. Your underlying assumption is that Apple's software couldn't possibly be buggy, which Ventura continues to show simply isn't the case. The OS update introduced a notification that adds very little to the average user's experience and introduces confusion or the possibility of error (like we're seeing here). I should be able to completely disable system notifications if I want, and there doesn't appear to be that option.


Introducing print drivers as your example is particularly disingenuous because we're talking about an OS vendor that requires you to use their software on their hardware. It's this sole OS vendor that introduced a buggy feature with no clear fix. I don't have to use printer software, but I have to use MacOS on my Apple hardware.


Here is a potential solution I found on MacRumors:


  1. Open Finder, then select Go -> Go to Folder... in the menu bar.
  2. Copy and paste the following address into the input field and press Enter: ~/Library/LaunchAgents
  3. A Finder window will open at the LaunchAgents folder. Show the items as a list organized by name, then search for the app or developer name associated with the process that's causing the Login Items notifications.
  4. Delete the .plist file, then empty the Trash.
  5. Restart your Mac.
  6. If the above steps don't work, look in the ~/Library/LaunchDaemons folder. If there are launch daemons in there associated with the app/developer, delete those too, empty Trash, and restart.


This seemed to solve the issue for me (my stray .plists were in the LaunchDaemons folder) and there's no constant stream of notifications now.


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Jan 15, 2023 4:14 AM in response to tom_bali

It has nothing to do with normal notifications. You cannot turn them off.

You have poorly made third-party software installed that continuously tries to run some background process. It should only ask once, and it should not attempt to install the mechanism it uses to run in the background every time it tries to run.


Disabling the process in System Settings will not resolve the problem as the app you installed that runs things in the background will continue to try to run in the background, triggering the notification.


The only way to stop the notifications is to uninstall the app you installed using the developer’s uninstall tool. That may prove difficult to find because the items don’t show the name of the app. In some cases it is the name of the person who created the signing certificate of the app. In other cases, the app just Ron’s one of the Utility programs on the Mac, like open or osascript.

Jan 19, 2023 6:32 AM in response to etresoft

etresoft wrote:


Roland Thomas wrote:

The worst part is that the messages are all generic: "Login Items Notification". Nothing to indicate *what* application is making that notification. If anyone knows of some way to turn on diagnostic logging that might capture that information, please let us know!

It is the operating system that is generating these notifications. I believe you can change this and make them more informative. Go to System Settings > Notifications and make sure "Show previews" is set to "Always". If this works, please follow up and let me know.


Thank you! This is very helpful. "Show Previews" was set 'Never' so this is what I would see.



Once I changed it to 'Always' as you suggested, I can now see exactly what apps are triggering this behavior.


It seems the same apps are responding this way over and over again. I know that I have already disabled background refresh for these apps so maybe they are refreshing in different ways that are not user tunable, but at least knowing this information is useful.

Jan 27, 2023 10:56 AM in response to Roland Thomas

I had this same problem. I was able to fix it by going to Notifications in system settings. Changing the setting Show Previews to always. This allowed me to see what programs were causing the Notifications. I then uninstalled all of those programs and deleted any of their folders in the Library. I then saw some of them where still showing in the list of login items. I clicked on the little i next to the item and it opened a folder with the file I deleted that as well. Now I don't have any more Login Notifications popping up randomly. I was able to reinstall any of the programs afterwards and it still works like it should now. The problem is the Login Items is bugged. So don't try to change any of the settings there once you get it fixed.

Jan 29, 2023 7:26 AM in response to Iskdu3

Hi, I am the original poster. In the end I did exactly the same thing. Once I set Show Previews to 'Always' in the Notifications pane, I was able to identify which apps were throwing the notifications. For me it was: Citrix, Steam, Logitech and DropBox but obviously it can be any app. Whether the fault is with Ventura or 3rd party apps that do not 'behave' properly with whatever changes are in the new OS, I don't know or care.


I then uninstalled the apps using the usual method of dragging the app to the trash can. However, even after a reboot, I still got the notifications.




So I had to use a 3rd party tool to completely scrub everything: https://nektony.com/mac-app-cleaner


I haven't decided yet if I am going to reinstall any of the apps right now. So it's all good for now but I'll post if anything changes. Thanks for reading.




Jan 2, 2023 9:10 AM in response to Roland Thomas

Roland Thomas wrote:

Hi, running Ventura 13.1 on Mac Mini M1.

Nothing worked. And I found nothing helpful when searching online, so maybe someone can tell me how to turn these **** things off.




There is a plethora of reports concerning this new glitch introduced with Ventura ...


Try turning off all Notifications if necessary(?)

Change Notifications settings on Mac - Apple Support



you can file a bug report /submit your Apple Feedback here: Product Feedback - Apple


You can hope for a point update to follow 13.1 for some resolve to this issue.



You can Call Customer Support (800) MY–APPLE (800–692–7753)

or on line Apple Support



Outside the USA—Contact Apple for support and service by phone

See a list of Apple phone numbers around the world.

Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support



I will add—looking at your screenshot: <CleanMyMac> is one of the worst for causing issues.


third party software

Look for any built in or in-app uninstaller and use that.


If in doubt refer to the developers website; Support/Help/FAQ/known issues/compatibility /updates/uninstall:

Contact a third party vendor

Contact a third-party vendor - Apple Support



Uninstall all third party apps that are Cleaners/Optimizers/Anti-Virus/VPN

all known to cause issues on the macOS


Jan 19, 2023 9:13 AM in response to Roland Thomas

Roland Thomas wrote:

Thank you! This is very helpful. "Show Previews" was set 'Never' so this is what I would see.

Once I changed it to 'Always' as you suggested, I can now see exactly what apps are triggering this behavior.

Oh no. You are the one who deserves the thanks for this. I haven't experienced this problem. I was just recommending that based on a hunch that it would work. You are the first person to follow up and confirm that it does work. Now you know exactly which apps are causing the problem.

It seems the same apps are responding this way over and over again. I know that I have already disabled background refresh for these apps so maybe they are refreshing in different ways that are not user tunable, but at least knowing this information is useful.

What you will have to do is uninstall those apps. Make sure to use official uninstallers or uninstallation instructions provided directly from the developer. Don't use any "app zapper" or "clean up" tools. Sadly, in many cases, uninstallers don't work or don't even exist. If you have problems uninstalling, we can help and give you some instructions to manually remove the files. But don't try that on your own. In some cases, if you delete the wrong file in the wrong way, the only solution we can then suggest is to erase your hard drive and reinstall the operating system.


Now here is the interesting part. Once you have successfully uninstalled these apps, you may be able to reinstall them and the problem may not come back. The trick is, you have to reinstall them one by one, and restart about twice in-between to confirm that you aren't getting any more notifications. If you do, then you know that particular app just doesn't work with Ventura. If you decide you don't actually need certain apps, that's even better.


What you don't want to do is what you are being told you can. You should NOT "manage that in Login Items Settings". That is likely to cause another round of notifications, repeating all of this. In two or three years, maybe more apps will be Ventura-friendly, but that's a dangerous user interface until then.

Jan 25, 2023 9:49 AM in response to Roland Thomas

Hey! I've also been experiencing this problem, and have tried a few things


  • First, I updated to 13.2 last night, and the issue persisted.
  • After doing that, I found this thread. So I changed my "Show Previews" Notification setting to "Always" as suggested here. That helped me identify the apps that were causing the problem. For me, it's only two apps, but they both account for 3+ notifications on startup. Google Updater and Logitech Options were only problem apps for me.
  • So I removed all Logitech apps and Google apps (for me, Logitech Options, Logi Bolt and Google Chrome), restarted my computer and the notifications were gone!
  • I reinstalled Google Chrome, and restarted my computer, and the issue returned with multiple Google Updater notifications popping up at startup.
  • Next, I looked up instructions online to disable Google Updater from running at all. I won't share the instructions I found here, because I'm not certain that there aren't any negative side effects as of now, and I don't want to be sharing bad information. However, I am not seeing any notifications popup for Google Updater on startup. (I've restarted 2 or 3 times so far with the same result)


So that's where I'm at now. I have not tried reinstalling any Logitech software yet, and won't have time to until tonight or this weekend. I'll continue to monitor the situation with Google Updater and come back if anything changes.


If you're having this problem, I 100% recommend turning Show Previews to "Always" in the Notification Settings.


I have my own opinions on the matter, but can this be considered a bug on the Mac OS side, the (in my case) Google/Logitech side, or both? Maybe it would be worth it to collect a list of applications causing this problem and reach out to the developers? Either way, I hope this gets addressed, because removing every app causing this problem isn't a very viable solution for many people.

Jan 17, 2023 6:09 PM in response to Roland Thomas

Roland Thomas wrote:

The worst part is that the messages are all generic: "Login Items Notification". Nothing to indicate *what* application is making that notification. If anyone knows of some way to turn on diagnostic logging that might capture that information, please let us know!

It is the operating system that is generating these notifications. I believe you can change this and make them more informative. Go to System Settings > Notifications and make sure "Show previews" is set to "Always". If this works, please follow up and let me know.


I have deleted unnecessary login items, disabled all apps running in the background

Alas, then you may actually be causing it. Unfortunately, this new user interface in Ventura was an exceptionally bad idea on Apple's part. I can't even explain it to people because I immediately have to jump deep into obscure APIs that distinguish between the different kinds of login items. But suffice to say that users should not change anything in that new Ventura Login Items user interface.


If you already have made changes, then I'm afraid that this is one of those problems that has no easy solution. The quickest, easiest solution will be to erase your hard drive and reinstall the operating system. You'll need a backup of course, but you can't take the easy route. You can only restore your user accounts and user files. You must NOT restore any apps, system files, or "other files". Then, you can manually reinstall only the apps you really need. Do them one at a time, restarting at least twice in between each. You should get one or more notifications the first time you install an app that has background tasks. But you should not get any more notifications after restarting twice. If you do, then you'll need to uninstall that most recently installed app.


And if all this seems like a lot of work, remember that I've given up trying to explain the more difficult, but less invasive ways. I'm out of ideas.

Feb 14, 2023 8:01 AM in response to Roland Thomas

This is easily solved by removing user installed startup items - however you may need to reinstall some software when you're finished.


You will need to repeat this three times:

In the Finder Menu Bar Select:

Go > Go To Folder ( or type ⇧ ⌘ G )


In the dialog box that appears type:

~/Library/LaunchAgents and press return ( ⏎ )


A window will open - delete everything that is in it and repeat two more times typing:

⇧ ⌘ G

/Library/LaunchAgents ( ⏎ )

Delete all files in this window - you may need to enter your password.


Repeat one more time:

⇧ ⌘ G

/Library/LaunchDaemons ( ⏎ )

Again - delete all files in this window, entering your password if necessary.


This will have cleared out all user installed startup / launch items

Restart the computer.


There should be no Login Items notifications now.

Reinstall any programs that need to run at startup, one at a time, restarting after each one.

If you restart and get the Login Notification - delete the files for the last app you installed and see if there is an updated version.


Hope this helps!

Jan 30, 2023 10:07 AM in response to Roland Thomas

This will work for many apps, but applications such as VPN (Cisco AnyConnect) require a daemon/service that runs in the background and will not function properly without it.


My workaround is just enabling Do Not Disturb (System Settings > Focus > Do Not Disturb) and ensuring that it's on all the time.


Until Apple fixes this... which I'm not holding my breath on.

-Dave

Mar 15, 2023 8:18 AM in response to Roland Thomas

I may have stumbled on the fix, at least to some extent. I have had 4 of these background pests ever since upgrading and have tried multiple things to shut them off, remove them, etc. but thus far, until today, nothing worked.


Locate the folder called LaunchAgents, which is tucked away in your file system Macintosh HD>Library>Launch Agents and delete these files located there.


I did this and now all 4 of these pesky bugs are gone.

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