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How to Turn Off Login Items Notifications?

Hi, running Ventura 13.1 on Mac Mini M1. I do not know how it happened but now every time I boot up, the right side of the screen is filled with these "Login Items Notification" messages. See screenshot. I have deleted unnecessary login items, disabled all apps running in the background, turned off all notifications in System Settings. Nothing worked. And I found nothing helpful when searching online, so maybe someone can tell me how to turn these **** things off.



Here is where I turned off all background updates and notifications


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Posted on Jan 2, 2023 8:50 AM

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Posted on Jan 14, 2023 10:42 PM

This is insanely annoying, I have turned off all notifications, running do not disturb, removed and disabled as much as possible and they still appear. Even if I simply go in to the login items settings page they all pop up again. Sort it out Apple. Super lame.

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Jan 19, 2023 9:13 AM in response to Roland Thomas

Roland Thomas wrote:

Thank you! This is very helpful. "Show Previews" was set 'Never' so this is what I would see.

Once I changed it to 'Always' as you suggested, I can now see exactly what apps are triggering this behavior.

Oh no. You are the one who deserves the thanks for this. I haven't experienced this problem. I was just recommending that based on a hunch that it would work. You are the first person to follow up and confirm that it does work. Now you know exactly which apps are causing the problem.

It seems the same apps are responding this way over and over again. I know that I have already disabled background refresh for these apps so maybe they are refreshing in different ways that are not user tunable, but at least knowing this information is useful.

What you will have to do is uninstall those apps. Make sure to use official uninstallers or uninstallation instructions provided directly from the developer. Don't use any "app zapper" or "clean up" tools. Sadly, in many cases, uninstallers don't work or don't even exist. If you have problems uninstalling, we can help and give you some instructions to manually remove the files. But don't try that on your own. In some cases, if you delete the wrong file in the wrong way, the only solution we can then suggest is to erase your hard drive and reinstall the operating system.


Now here is the interesting part. Once you have successfully uninstalled these apps, you may be able to reinstall them and the problem may not come back. The trick is, you have to reinstall them one by one, and restart about twice in-between to confirm that you aren't getting any more notifications. If you do, then you know that particular app just doesn't work with Ventura. If you decide you don't actually need certain apps, that's even better.


What you don't want to do is what you are being told you can. You should NOT "manage that in Login Items Settings". That is likely to cause another round of notifications, repeating all of this. In two or three years, maybe more apps will be Ventura-friendly, but that's a dangerous user interface until then.

Jan 25, 2023 10:58 AM in response to Eric_____

Eric_____ wrote:

• Next, I looked up instructions online to disable Google Updater from running at all. I won't share the instructions I found here

I don't think you have to worry about that. Apple literally added this feature to the operating system.


I haven't mentioned this to people who are having this notification problem because I didn't want to confuse the issue. But I always turn off the Google updater. I don't remember if I had it disabled before installing Ventura. But I did use the new control in Ventura to turn off Google. I experienced no ill effects. (I am a professional. Don't try that at home.)


I don't recommend that people use the new user interface at all. In many cases, it seems that disabling some apps actually causes the notifications.

I have my own opinions on the matter, but can this be considered a bug on the Mac OS side, the (in my case) Google/Logitech side, or both?

I think Google/Logitech/and others were doing it "wrong". However, Apple barely documents any of this and regularly make significant architectural changes. This change is by far one of the biggest. There was no reasonable expectation or indication that there was any problem until Apple released Ventura. But then again, Apple did release Ventura 7 months ago. You think they would have noticed by now. And this kind of behaviour is nothing new from Apple. You think they would have expected something like this by now.

Maybe it would be worth it to collect a list of applications causing this problem and reach out to the developers?

Good luck with that.

Either way, I hope this gets addressed, because removing every app causing this problem isn't a very viable solution for many people.

Solution? To what problem? And for whom? I think this new behaviour in Ventura is Apple's solution to the problem of flaky 3rd party system modifications that cause large numbers of people to require high levels of Apple support for a low-tier, low-profit product line because somebody else isn't paying attention to beta builds. I think this new feature is "operating as designed" in every respect.

Jan 27, 2023 10:56 AM in response to Roland Thomas

I had this same problem. I was able to fix it by going to Notifications in system settings. Changing the setting Show Previews to always. This allowed me to see what programs were causing the Notifications. I then uninstalled all of those programs and deleted any of their folders in the Library. I then saw some of them where still showing in the list of login items. I clicked on the little i next to the item and it opened a folder with the file I deleted that as well. Now I don't have any more Login Notifications popping up randomly. I was able to reinstall any of the programs afterwards and it still works like it should now. The problem is the Login Items is bugged. So don't try to change any of the settings there once you get it fixed.

Jan 29, 2023 11:21 AM in response to gary.bell

Hi Gary,


I don't think turning off Notifications is enough. "Instruments" is probably an app on your machine but not mine. In fact, I had originally turned off notifications on all my apps but that did nothing.


The only solution so far is what others described above and what I did -- enable Notifications to always show previews so you can know exactly what apps are displaying the messages and then actually uninstall those apps.


This of course is the worst-case scenario for a user experience so I hope Apple figures out a solution because relying on each and every developer to release patches to their apps will take forever.


Best,

Roland


Jan 30, 2023 11:23 AM in response to DGammage

This is a very interesting suggestion - thank you Dave!


I've turned on the DND focus for whenever I'm on the Mac mini at home. I'm going to re-install Citrix and the other apps that were throwing the notifications and report back on results. Hopefully this is a good workaround - it will let me install the apps that I want without getting the pop-ups.



Feb 8, 2023 1:39 AM in response to Roland Thomas

In my case millions of notifications also appear each time my screen is unlocked (!!). I tried many things and lost A LOT OF TIME to solve this issue. I bought my mac last year, but I was not so sure about buying it, since in the last few years too many problems/bugs have come to decrease the efficiency of working with Mac. The most efficient way I am working nowadays is not with Mac anymore, but with Linux...

Feb 14, 2023 8:01 AM in response to Roland Thomas

This is easily solved by removing user installed startup items - however you may need to reinstall some software when you're finished.


You will need to repeat this three times:

In the Finder Menu Bar Select:

Go > Go To Folder ( or type ⇧ ⌘ G )


In the dialog box that appears type:

~/Library/LaunchAgents and press return ( ⏎ )


A window will open - delete everything that is in it and repeat two more times typing:

⇧ ⌘ G

/Library/LaunchAgents ( ⏎ )

Delete all files in this window - you may need to enter your password.


Repeat one more time:

⇧ ⌘ G

/Library/LaunchDaemons ( ⏎ )

Again - delete all files in this window, entering your password if necessary.


This will have cleared out all user installed startup / launch items

Restart the computer.


There should be no Login Items notifications now.

Reinstall any programs that need to run at startup, one at a time, restarting after each one.

If you restart and get the Login Notification - delete the files for the last app you installed and see if there is an updated version.


Hope this helps!

Feb 23, 2023 5:17 PM in response to gmannfromchitown

Well I'm not running any poorly made software unless you count Adobe and Canon software as poorly made. This is the first time I have ever encountered this issue on any of my apple products. It's an Apple problem.

If it keeps installing background processes at every startup, it is poorly made.

I haven't seen any printer software that was well-made. Generally, the drivers are ok, but all the other garbage is garbage.

Mar 7, 2023 8:52 AM in response to azazel93

azazel93 wrote:

Here a "normal" professional user of . I use strictly professional softwares, but it is not my problem if they are "poorly made", as they don't bother me in any other way but as these OS X notifications. So I would say it's the  that is poorly made in this context.

Apple only makes consumer products.

Mar 15, 2023 8:18 AM in response to Roland Thomas

I may have stumbled on the fix, at least to some extent. I have had 4 of these background pests ever since upgrading and have tried multiple things to shut them off, remove them, etc. but thus far, until today, nothing worked.


Locate the folder called LaunchAgents, which is tucked away in your file system Macintosh HD>Library>Launch Agents and delete these files located there.


I did this and now all 4 of these pesky bugs are gone.

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