Black windows in Safari and Mail in Ventura OS

I also notice that when it happens in Safari, Mail, Outlook, etc, sometimes it's not only about black windows, but can also be about white windows with text not appearing when typing. (Text is there, but not visible.)

It's the same for me – tried Safari the first time since many weeks, after realising that Apple Mail stopped with the sporadic (sometimes often) black windows.

After hours in Safari without black windows the glitch seems to be solved, now.

Heureka!

You described it very same as me, at first I didn't find the problem is caused by Safari, It took me a long time to find this thread, I just cannot use words to describe my mood, I finally finally finally found someone who had the same problem as me.

You described it very same as me, at first I didn't find the problem is caused by Safari, It took me a long time to find this thread, I just cannot use words to describe my mood, I finally finally finally found someone who had the same problem as me. @orindad

Indeed where are they? Just when I thought this MAJOR PROBLEM had disappeared - and while reading this forum again - Voilá: It showed up again! Very strange that nobody is addressing this issue in an effective manner.

This is happening on a MacBook Pro 16 M1 32Gb RAM 2Tb drive. Not so many Safari window open but many Mail windows instead.

I don’t use an external monitor, or Idea. I still have the issue.

It does seem better since I quit Mail and only open it when I need, but I am not sure that is the solution.

The cleaning of caches idea is intriguing and I will look into it if my current solution is not effective.

So frustrated, I am only happy last less than three weeks, and the problem is back again again again, why apple doesn't care about this? Even though I've updated the system the problem is still always inseparable

I don't think I saw that again since some time after the 13.5 release. I guess it resolved itself slowly or it is taking a long time to come back.

Strangely, I use another Mac with Ventura too and the other Mac never had the issue.

I spoke too soon. It's almost as if my laptop is toying with me. Shortly after my prior post in which I mentioned an improvement in my "black window bug" experience, the issue cropped up at a scale that required me to reboot, and I've rebooted at least a dozen times in the days since. It seems that for me, the issue may not actually be improved after all.

same exact here as others have described and for A LONG TIME NOW! it amazes me that I have $24k+ worth of Apple products sitting on my desk (MPB 14" M1 Max 64GB 8TB + 3x XDR Pro displays) and I can't hardly browse via Safari or read mail via the Mail.app --> seriously? the two most basic things? web and email unusable? come on Apple - Steve has to be turning in his grave reading this... sad. for the first time in my life (my first apple was Apple ][e back in the 80s!), Im considering moving to Windows - my GF's PC runs circles around this MPB, for half the cost and no issues such as this. come on Apple, get with the program! its basic WEB and EMAIL !!! make it work... so frustrated, I want to throw this thing out the window.

So frustrating...

For what it's worth, I had two Macs next to each other, one had the issue the other didn't.

Then one day it miraculously disappeared. I really can't explain.

Did you use the suggestions above of quitting Mail or relaunching Finder?

I have not tried force quitting / relaunching finder, but the point is that this has been an issue for so many for so long we should not have to resort to some crude measures such as force quitting the apps - its akin to pulling the plug from the wall and restarting the instrument to make it work... anyway, thank you for the suggestions, I will try, but if Apple can not get their basics in order, and soon, I will be jumping ship Windows after a being a lifelong Apple supporter... wow, just wow!

It’s probably not very helpful but after suffering from this bug for about 1-2 weeks after getting a brand new M2 MBP 2 months ago I haven’t had it again. I did not change anything in my daily habits. Still using Safari with many tabs open and Mail.

The only remote thing is that some connection issues at my internet modem were solved. Don’t think that’s related though.

Although I am not the person you responded to I don't use apple mail and have this issue. I am planning to try the upgrade in system software when I have time to deal with it this weekend (need to back up first as I haven't done that in a week).

Well that sucks!!! I guess I should be grateful it can be bypassed but my entire personal life is on Safari including a ton of bookmarks. My professional life is on Firefox. I try not to use Chrome due to google and their tracking/use of information. Sigh.

Thanks for answering.