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changing the name of a disk volume

OK, I think I've asked this before, in several forums, but I've NEVER gotten an adequate answer. I have several disks mounted on my Monterey system, and frequently (but not always), I am TOTALLY UNABLE to rename them. That is, normally you click on the disk volume icon, and then on the icon name. The name gets a light blue background, and you can type a new name. Just like for files and folders. I do a monthly backup and I like to rename that disk volume with the date of that backup. Today, I am UNABLE to do that on my backup disk. I click on its icon name, and then the label, and the label background doesn't turn light blue, and you can't enter a new name. Duh, what's going on??? So I throw up my hands and in Disk Utility I erase the volume, rename it as desired, and redo the backup. Now I can rename the volume (which no longer needs to be renamed) by clicking on the icon.


If I have a disk volume that refuses to be renamed, how do I do so, without erasing it???



iMac, OS X 10.11

Posted on Jun 18, 2023 6:22 AM

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Posted on Jun 19, 2023 6:59 AM

OK, I think I have the answer. I contacted Apple Support, and they escalated me to a really smart person. We found that the disk volumes that I could not change the names on were bootable backups (these produced by SuperDuper, as it turns out). It seems that bootable backups are formatted somewhat differently, and since they are backups, they specifically don't allow any changes to be made on them. If in Disk Utility you cntl-click on a volume you'll see a volume "info" pane (via Get Info). One of the items in that pane is "Writable", which can be "yes" or "no". Bootable backups are all "no". Non-bootable volumes are all "yes".


The references here to Time Machine pertain somewhat. You can't change that name because it is, in some sense, a bootable backup.


So that's the answer. Bootable backups are protected against ALL changes, including name changes. What is a little strange is the icon for my internal disk DOES allow name changes, but maybe that's because I have booted to it and it is open. If I boot to one of my bootable backups, I suspect I'd be able to change it's name then.

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Jun 19, 2023 6:59 AM in response to dialabrain

OK, I think I have the answer. I contacted Apple Support, and they escalated me to a really smart person. We found that the disk volumes that I could not change the names on were bootable backups (these produced by SuperDuper, as it turns out). It seems that bootable backups are formatted somewhat differently, and since they are backups, they specifically don't allow any changes to be made on them. If in Disk Utility you cntl-click on a volume you'll see a volume "info" pane (via Get Info). One of the items in that pane is "Writable", which can be "yes" or "no". Bootable backups are all "no". Non-bootable volumes are all "yes".


The references here to Time Machine pertain somewhat. You can't change that name because it is, in some sense, a bootable backup.


So that's the answer. Bootable backups are protected against ALL changes, including name changes. What is a little strange is the icon for my internal disk DOES allow name changes, but maybe that's because I have booted to it and it is open. If I boot to one of my bootable backups, I suspect I'd be able to change it's name then.

Jun 19, 2023 5:25 AM in response to PRP_53

My problem isn't with Disk Utilities. It's with the disk volume icon, and renaming it. If there is something specific you want to know about the disk in Disk Utilities, just ask. It ought to be clear what I'm talking about.



That's one of my disk volume icons. Let's say I want to change the name from "my disk" to "your disk". In many cases, it simply won't let me. In this case, I can. I click on the icon, the name gets highlighted in light blue



and I can edit that name.



Presto.


Many times, I simply can't get the name to be highlighted with a blue background, and I can't edit it.

Jun 19, 2023 6:52 AM in response to Dannymac22

Ok, so the user has our undivided attention - for now


To use the Metaphor " Bitting the hands that try to feed you " will often leave the user hungry for a solution for this Technical Computer issue.


Below shows Both the Internal and External Drives


The External Drive is showing what it is showing.


The Drive is formatted APFS and has a singular Container with a Volume below it


The Volume Name is called MM_Clone


The Drive Name is identified as Seagate Ultra Slim PM Media






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Jun 19, 2023 4:13 AM in response to Dannymac22

Disk Volumes on a Drive are exactly that, a Volume residing within the Overall Drive.


The Entire Drive can contain Several Volumes if the user ( you ) has decided to do so.


Volumes are Not the same a Partitioning a Drive


Partitioning a Drive makes each Partition a separate Sub-Division on that Drive and would appear as Separate Drives


I can rename the Entire External Drive provided it is Not Already assigned to Time Machine Backup

Jun 19, 2023 5:37 AM in response to dialabrain

Well, to the extent information is being requested, then please specify the specific information you want. A requests for a screen shot of Disk Utility is not at all specific. What exactly are you looking for in that? What does Disk Utility report that might even bear on the issue? When I get non-specific request for information, it's like hands getting thrown up in the air. Right now, I'm hearing a big "I don't have a clue."

Jun 19, 2023 7:05 AM in response to PRP_53

Don't appreciate you sharing my screen without my permission. Do you do that routinely? Presumably you had access to that because Apple Support was already sharing my screen. Not that the information you got with my Disk Utility actually allowed you to make any progress on my issue! You got all kinds of info you didn't need.

Jun 19, 2023 8:40 AM in response to Dannymac22

As I've said several times, we're NOT TALKING ABOUT TIME MACHINE. These are external disks. All formatted APFS.

A Time Machine backup disk is also a Disk Volume, so you are indirectly talking about Time Machine, or any other disk, drive, RAM disk, USB Stick, Flash Memory, etc.


Now that you have confirmed the disk format, if you Get Info on that drive, what are the Sharing and Permissions settings?

Jun 19, 2023 3:30 PM in response to Dannymac22

Dannymac22 wrote:



That’s what I was stating. SupwrDuper doesn’t really produce a correct clone.

Um, what? I'e been using it for decades and I've never seen any fault in SuperDuper. Reference? Also, the correctness of the clone doesn't obviously have anything to do with whether you can rename it.

A “clone” is an exact replica. If it can’t be renamed, it isn’t exact in some way.

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