Optimized battery charging issue solved ( MBP 2020, macOS Ventura )

Hi Philips,

Yes I though about giving a feedback but than I decide not to do so because it will be only a futile effort, so I decide to count on my efforts and community that can tell their experience about this issue.

What are you sayin 6 months to learn :) I believe we talked this before, I remembered that.

Yes you are right about sending feedback to Apple but regarding to my past experiences It is hard to find someone who has a grasp on the subject.

When I heard about the word "algorithms" I usually laugh because when you do not know about how it works or may not want to explain the details you generally use the sentences like "there are algorithms for solving these kind of problems"

By the way do you agree that this functionality was much better on Monterey ?

In addition, I would like to explain another point.

There is no doubt that Apple implemented some sophisticated algorithm for battery life. But if the optimization algorithm working as most of us expected why there is need for the other third party tools ?

Simple command line utility would be enough to set Battery Max Charging Level. If I was the developer I would put a parameter inside of the pmset command.

I'm attaching my simple suggestion for solving these types of situations. I'm sure someone would understand who is reading this, I do not want to give feedback and track the status of it right now.

I've added my fictional the desktop mode button under the battery menu.

Hi Steve,

My suggestion is not a complexity but simple use case for all like me. And I do not want my battery to wear off without understanding the charging logic behind it.

It is a bit weird for me that you accept all the things happening without understanding them. Maybe I'm skeptical but I need to understand what is happening in my computer.

As I generally do, I developed my own solutions and will post it soon once I've tested and make it easy to implement for all.

I started to research details of optimized charging after this issue and I figured out Apple spend many efforts related to machine learning models of the user charge habits and I appreciate It, but in my case I do not need it. Maybe some people should really think about if optimized charging feature is not appropriate for MacBook but iPhone .

I do not agree with your saying “in good faith and in the best interests of the computer and not necessarily in the best interest of individual users” because I see the voltages of each cell of the battery during the charge and you can not say 4.3 Volt is harmless to the battery. I can present documents about that.

Hi Ikrup, here is my replies to your sentences :

"All mobile device manufacturers spend billions of dollars of R&D on making batteries last longer, charge faster, maximize output."

I agree but it is irrelevant to the topic.

"It is in the manufacturer’s interest to preserve battery life as long as possible, conspiracy theories about forced upgrades and planned obsolescence not withstanding." I do not agree. I've colleagues in consumer electronics industry and their jobs is to make sure planned obsolescence will work.

"I trust Apple’s ability to maintain a battery more than any “I read it on the internet” nonsense"

I also trust Apple about that, but there is always possibility of a software bug if you have enough entropy. Also about "I read it on internet" it depends which pages/documents you are reading.

"My mobile devices go on the charger very night 24/7/365. My series 4 Watch is now close to five years old and battery health is just now down to 83%. It will last until I decide to buy a new Watch before I even consider a battery replacement."

Mobile devices ( phones and watches ) doesn't affected by this issue since they can not be on charge continuously.

"Apple is doing a good job, let them continue doing it."

I also think like that but I'm just pointing out some missing functionality.

Hi,

After the success of my initial project I realized I can also make something like the following. I'm thinking about adding a scheduled configuration part at the bottom of the GUI. I want to ask community, would it be useful if I add something like this ? ( schedule part )

GUI Prototype

Hi starman,

I'm confused about whether you find the optimized charging good or bad.

I think is mostly ok for iOS but not macOS.

In my opinion sometimes you do not want to maintain two code branches and rather unify them so these kind of problems can occur.

Did you read my post about the solution for macOS ?

By the way can you give me some technical details about your saying "The official documentation details everything you need to know from them" I rather find the explanation superficial.

During my research I drill down from top to the bottom of the charging process and I my findings points that it would be better if Apple would implement like I suggested in macOS.