Optimized battery charging issue solved ( MBP 2020, macOS Ventura )

kivanc48 wrote:

• Thank you for your informative replay, since there is no explanation from apple about how this feature works with a some technical point of view, we are experimenting with trial and errors. As I do not want my battery to wear off during some unnecessary charging/discharging cycles during learning.

Original poster from reddit explains that he contacted the apple support for this issue and get it is working by doing steps that I summarized.

Although I want to see some details as an engineer the solution I proposed is simple and also helpful for common usage. That is like that:

They will need to put some status indication to battery settings like "refreshing battery" or "learning in progress".

• Or some simple checkbox to indicate the computer is generally on AC power. ( Charger is always plugged )

The solution you proposed does no harm, but it is inconvenient as it requires multiple menus and clicks. For something that Apple has designed so the user does not need to do anything in order to maximize battery life. My anecdotal experience with 3 laptops is that 3 for 3, all three have "learned" to preserve batteries by staying long term at a lower charge, with the user having to do ... nothing.

I am also an engineer and do respect that some companies prefer not to release their proprietary algorithms, I see this all the time, I accept it. Especially where the algorithm appears to work.

In any case, you may be over-worrying the battery situation. As P. Phillips points out, batteries are a consumable, the wear out over time and use, no matter what. Apple has implemented a scheme to maximize battery life, and does something similar with iPhones as well.

As for worrying about unnecessary charging/discharging cycles during learning, that is probably insignificant, these batteries are designed for 1000 cycles.

As I do not want my battery to wear off during some unnecessary charging/discharging cycles during learning.

kivanc48 wrote:

As I generally do, I developed my own solutions and will post it soon once I've tested and make it easy to implement for all.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with! I trust Apple with its batteries, but if what you have is better, I might even use it!

Having left this question believing there has been sufficient advise offered, from several Contributors, for the User ( you ) to make an informed and educated choice what remedial actions maybe required for this computer.

The suggestions have been put forth on a volunteer basis, in good faith and in the best interests of the computer and not necessarily in the best interest of individual users

In my opinion all this obsession with battery charging is needless. All mobile device manufacturers spend billions of dollars of R&D on making batteries last longer, charge faster, maximize output.

There are tons of conflicting “studies" about how to maintain a battery, how often to charge, how low to let the charge get before recharging, etc. It’s a veritable cottage industry and almost all of it is poppycock when it comes to modern mobile devices of all stripes.

It is in the manufacturer’s interest to preserve battery life as long as possible, conspiracy theories about forced upgrades and planned obsolescence not withstanding.

I trust Apple’s ability to maintain a battery more than any “I read it on the internet” nonsense. My mobile devices go on the charger very night 24/7/365. My series 4 Watch is now close to five years old and battery health is just now down to 83%. It will last until I decide to buy a new Watch before I even consider a battery replacement.

Apple is doing a good job, let them continue doing it.

There are persons who what their moment of fame

Then there are persons who desire a true resolution of a Technical Apple Issue

In this case, one can only infer the " Powers that Be " understand there may have been something amiss in the OPs posting that OP has some kindly referenced in an earlier posting .

What it was will remain a mystery

You trust apple to maintain the battery life but, you don't trust them to use common codebase with other apple devices in order to maintain the battery life? Paradoxical. The feature is not working. The official documentation details everything you need to know from them.

Hello OP, you have not misguided me, I tried the solution in hopes that it would fix it but it didn't. It is not your fault and you were eager to help.

Whatever my subjective opinion might be, the feature has to be fixed.

[Edited by myself]

I have a MacBook M3 Pro Max, 16 inch, with Sonoma, which I always keep plugged in to the charger, except when I store it in the closet for a few hours maybe once a week. When I put it on optimized battery charging it took about two weeks before it started slowly going down to about 94%, then it charged up again. Then a few days later it went down more quickly to 89% I believe, for a few hours and then charged up again to 100%. I think a few days after that it went down to 80% and stayed there for quite a while, maybe a week. When I took it off charger and put it in the closet, I noticed that it charged back up to 100% after I restarted and plugged it in, in that order. Eventually it went down to 80% again. The next time it had been shut down and off charger for a few hours, I plugged it in before restarting and it stayed 80%. So I agree, it seems to work the opposite of what the initial post says. Lately however for the few days to a last week it has been staying more on 100% charge and I'm not sure why. I noticed that when new, the maximum charge capacity was 242 mAh above the design capacity, which I suppose is a good thing. After it had been on 80% charge for a while, and maybe it became accidentally disconnected from battery and went down to maybe 60% one time, the maximum charge capacity dropped about 40 mAh from its initial maximum charge capacity, but after it had been charging up to 100% for a while it went back up about 20 mAh. I suspect that the program periodically charges it to 100% for some reason, perhaps because that also helps preserve the battery. I noticed after one OS update involving downloading and installing, that the battery charged up to 100% and stayed like that for about four hours and then started going down to 80%.