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How is my child bypassing screentime limits?

My nearly 13-yo is bypassing screentime limits, and is able to use apps that are clearly not allowed during downtime.


If you Google "how to bypass screentime" there are many blogs which list some of the same methods. As far as I can determine, he's not using any of these techniques. He can't change the time or time zone, can't uninstall and reinstall apps, tricks to use iMessages is not the issue (he's allowed to anyway with selected family contacts), etc. He's obviously not factory resetting the phone, and he's not changing the screentime settings at all (so he doesn't have my screentime passcode).


What is happening: certain apps -- the ones he wants to use like SnapChat and TikTok -- are completely accessible to him after downtime begins, currently at 9:30pm. (I believe he can't override the time limit for screentime, because sometimes he'll request more time, but not sure on that.)


Some clues:

  • The apps deactivate at midnight and he apparently doesn't know how to get around that
  • I thought he might be using shortcuts, but can't see how. he's got shortcuts that open some of the apps he likes, but it seems that's just so he can have custom icons for them on the home screen.
  • only allowed apps are phone, messages, maps (after downtime)
  • he isn't using anything involving tethering to a computer, because he was doing it when he didn't have access to his computer for a couple days, too.


Some hearsay:


  • a technique involving asking for 1 more minute and force quitting the app and relaunching it? I tried this and could't achieve the bypass


Any ideas how he is doing this?


Obvs. if he keeps doing this I'm just going to confiscate the iPad, but it would be nice if this system worked and I knew how to prevent him from bypassing it.


FYI here's another similar unanswered thread.


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Posted on Aug 30, 2023 9:04 AM

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Posted on Sep 1, 2023 7:35 AM

Loren Ryter wrote:

Good idea. Not very practical for me (already have like 5 SSIDs on one router, and want to keep kid on same LAN anyway), but possible.


Five SSIDs on one router is unusual. Typical is at most two (guest, staff).


Three SSIDs is about the most I’ve ever met on one Access Point (AP) or one Wi-Fi router, and that was ugly. Here, that trio would probably be “Guest”, “Kid”, and “Parents”.


I typically recommend APs or mesh networks and careful Wi-Fi frequency coordination, rather than adding (often warring) Wi-Fi routers and adding SSIDs to manage added coverage, if that was the motivation leading to five SSIDs active here.


I get they can be bypassed, but it shouldn't be such a mystery how he's doing it. I'm pretty technically inclined and can't figure out the exploit. AFAIK any method that could involve a small budget is something like a jailbreak -- running software tethered to a computer -- and most likely can only be meant to circumvent the passcode security for the parental controls. It would be at the level of a boot injection, and I see nothing amiss in the boot sequence or any other obvious sign of such a hack. Furthermore, it would need to work by allowing him to change the screentime settings, which he's not doing.


That’s far more work than the easiest of the allowance-budget bypasses. Again, parental controls is doomed to fail, against any suitably inclined kid. Prisons fail at this. And yes, there are absolutely places and things around that parents do not want to have discussions about, and will wish to block, but that doesn’t make those conversations any less avoidable nor these blocks any more effective. Technology can’t solve people problems, IT sales reps’ claims aside.


IMO someone needs to keep an up-to-date list of exploits that a) parents can take further measures to block or otherwise handle, or b) apple can address.


Yes, and the folks maintaining that list are liars, scammers, cheats, and crooks, or those selling snake-oil and “magical” solutions, or those that wish to harvest data and metadata from you and your children, or those seeking to advertise to the children, or combinations. I manage more complex and more capable networking gear than most or the folks around here have access to, and all of what I have (including 802.1X RADIUS authentication, and redundant local DNS servers) can still be entirely bypassed by a kid on an allowance-scale budget.


And yes, the Kid-SSID will fail against even a mildly determined adversary with an allowance, too.


This is an exceedingly hard problem. Unsolvable, without (generally illegal) communications jamming.


Again, prisons fail at this.


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Aug 31, 2023 9:12 AM in response to Loren Ryter

Set up a parallel SSID and lock them to that, and shut that off on a schedule. This can be done with various approaches, including a cheap timer on a cheap router, or a mid-grade router with some scheduling controls.


To be blunt, all of this Parental Controls stuff can be bypassed, and that on an allowance scale budget, if the kid is inclined. Only reliable use I’ve found for these controls is keeping less technical folks locked down and away from random changes to settings. Kids, kids can bypass these, if not directly (password surfing, etc) then through readily available alternatives.

Jan 22, 2024 1:52 PM in response to Momofabunch

Momofabunch wrote:

My teen has admitted to getting around screen time and restricted contacts by turning his phone off. When the phone is powered back on, it gives him access to apps and phone numbers for a few moments (I haven't timed how long) before the regular parental control settings start working again.


I doubt that. Your credentials might be known.


But again, parental controls are doomed to fail against any suitably inclined kid. Prisons fail at this. And yes, there are absolutely places and things around that parents do not want to have discussions about, and will wish to block, but that doesn’t make those conversations any less avoidable nor these blocks any more effective.


You might run parallel Wi-Fi or shut off the Wi-Fi on a schedule, but even that won't keep a suitably motivated kid isolated from their interests.


Technology can’t solve people problems.


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