After WatchOS 10 update I cannot swipe between watch faces

Jim_1218 wrote:

Please return ability to select from the watch different watch faces. The recent update for the watch is a drastic change don’t like please return this functionality asap thank you

Tell Apple via

https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch

kozmokramerkaplan wrote:

Bad move on Apples part. Being able to change watch faces on the for different purposes was a huge benefit. not sure what they were thinking here.

This link is probably the best explanation of the thinking behind WatchOS 10 . It seems Apple were trying to figure out a better way to display info/data than swiping between multiple faces each with multiple complications.

Unfortunately it reads well, works lousy (in my opinion)

Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch - Apple (NZ)

I have told Apple Idris , more than once. Here’s my “laundry list” to clean this mess up:

/ reinstate quick and easy swiping between watch faces

/ 7 widgets is not enough

/ 3 complications in a widget is not enough and should allow multiple complication widgets

/ missing widgets eg communication widget covering email, messages and phone (and no 3rd party widgets)

/ overly complicated weather app

/ bring back Favourites, suggest crown double press for Favourites and move the app switcher of recent apps to the Smart Stack ( in place of All Apps)

/ no need for time-day-date widget when that’s the top line of the scrolling Smart Stack

/ all widgets should be editable (within the limits of the widget ‘theme’ ) and removable

/ Smart Stack composition and editing should be a function on the phone (like Faces)

/ no need for 2 ways to access ‘All Apps’. ( Crown press and Smart Stack )

/ Smart Stack doesn’t seem very smart. it’s not clear if editing the stack disables machine learning.

if anyone likes any of these suggestions, please don’t tell me. Tell Apple. Here:

Feedback - Watch - Apple

ZombieDC wrote:

It seems to me that they could have introduced the new Stack, and left the swipe alone, or at the very least left an option to enable swiping. An accidental swipe now opens the central app. Less than useless.

I agree, Apple should not have hobbled the OS9 way of swiping between faces.

It doesn’t need to be a “swipe”; touch the watch face anywhere with a slight upward movement and the stack (or central app) launches.

If you think that’s less than useless, tell Apple at

https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch

promyk wrote:

i hope they read this and give us an option to go back to old ways.

As has been explained, Apple doesn't read here for feedback or suggestions. You can, however, let them know your thoughts here:

Product Feedback - Apple

Anyone knows of a way to downgrade os on a watch?

Downgrading is not supported.

IdrisSeabright wrote:

This is the first iteration of the Smart Stack I suspect that it will develop over time. And, I suspect that Apple is watching suggestions and user data on it quite closely to determine the direction.

I hope your suspicions are well founded and prove to be right.

WatchOS 10 is a seismic shift. For 9 iterations of the OS the focus has been on multiple faces each with multiple complications (I had 42 complications in total) . Reading (and re-reading ) the press release it’s clear Apple thought there should be a better way . The focus now is on Widgets in a Smart Stack and widgets are based on apps, not complications.

I suspect it’s going to be a long time before I can say ‘these widgets are easier and quicker than 6 faces and 42 complications’.

I think the Apple are on the right track, but they have a very long way to go.

Here’s the press release for anyone who hasn’t seen it:

Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch - Apple (NZ)

OldSaltyDog wrote:

Removing the single swipe to change faces makes the watch much less usable for me

as well. I am constantly changing faces to get different functions. I was going to update to the latest hardware, but losing this feature gives me pause.

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Product Feedback - Apple

King Dingaling wrote:

It's hard to believe that Apple would make such a big mistake and not notice it during the beta phase.

It's not a mistake. It was part of an intentional series of changes in the way the Watch works.

Please bring this feature back... at least as an opt-in in settings.

Apple doesn't read here for feedback or suggestions. YOu can let them know your thoughts here:

Product Feedback - Apple

Without this function, the Apple Watch is hardly usable for users who don't just wear it to show off.

The current gesture of changing watch faces is only likely to annoy people. Really extremely disappointing.

I think it's highly presumptuous and unkindly judgemental to assume that people who don't use the watch in exactly the same way as you do are somehow only wearing it to "show off".

I am quite pleased with the fact that I no longer inadvertently change faces when I didn't intend to. It has made my watch experience more pleasant. I have told Apple so.

McCarthy Forester wrote:

I find it a problem to long tap (or whatever they call it) then swipe to find the smaller watch face it want, then to press the crown to bring it full size.

So much more complicated than a simple swipe.

is Apple planning something else for left/right swipes?

Apple has access to tremendous amounts of anonymized use data as well as feedback, suggestions and logged support calls. It is quite possible that they discovered that the number of people complaining about accidentally changing faces was significantly larger than the number of people who did it multiple times a day. So, to improve the user experience of the most people, they change it. But, we can't know for sure.

You can let Apple know what you'd like to see here:

Product Feedback - Apple

IdrisSeabright wrote:

There is a certain beauty in simplicity.

Personally, I'd be fine if Apple made this an option, but we all know how Apple feels about too many options.

Looking over recent posts….. users bemoan the loss of swiping between faces, but hardly anyone expresses dissatisfaction with the new navigation.

I suspect Apple won’t take much notice of complaining about the loss of an OS9 navigation and wanting swiping between faces back as an option.

I know it’s early days for the New Design Language & Navigation but it doesn’t work nearly as well as the Press Release implied; widgets/Smart Stack is simply not fit for purpose.

Here's the Press Release:

Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch - Apple (NZ)

Perhaps we should focus our attention on where we’re going, not where we have been. Here:

Product Feedback - Apple

IdrisSeabright wrote:

Northern-Survivor wrote:

So what do you think is the intention of the New Design Language & Navigation?

Is " New Design Language & Navigation" some Apple policy or procedure? I'm assuming it's a specific thing because you put it in title case. I am not familiar with it.

Familiarise yourself here

Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch - Apple (NZ)

The press release made it pretty clear this was a new approach to navigation on the watch

Northern-Survivor wrote:

Familiarise yourself here

Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch - Apple (NZ)

The press release made it pretty clear this was a new approach to navigation on the watch

Yes, I understand that there is a new approach to navigation. Even if I hadn't read that article, or watched the original announcements or kept up with what was happening with beta releases, I would have been aware of that. But, no, I hadn't paid much attention to the section headers in the article.

Thanks.

IrishJCB wrote:

Same dismayed reaction to this update. In my opinion, accidental face changes were worth having the swipe functionality, which is such a part of Apple product branding! I’ll reserve final judgment after a couple days’ use, but this also makes me hesitate to keep using the watch.

Tell Apple:

Product Feedback - Apple

King Dingaling wrote:

I have been a committed user of Apple hardware for decades. Not all changes in macOS, iOS and watchOS were improvements. But because of "Swipe-Gate" I researched for the first time whether others have the same problem and how they deal with it.

The idea of comparing a comparatively minor UX change in a luxury consumer good to one of the worst political scandals in the U.S. in the twentieth century is a bit disturbing to me.

Replacing a "swipe" with a "longpress-swipe-press" is simply NOT a useful update for very many people, even if you disagree and strongly defend Apple’s decision.

You don't know that it's not useful to very many people. That's the point I keep making and people seem to be ignoring. I'm not defending anything. I'm pointing out reasons it may have made sense to Apple to make this change. Apple does quite well without my help.

I'm sure the swipe gesture will come back. This is just too bad to stick with on principle.

My guess would be that it won't. Bu, you should let Apple know what you'd like to see here:

Product Feedback - Apple

markfromlandolakes wrote:

settings-General-swipe between faces-"on or off"

How hard would that have been? Apparently, way to hard for Apple.

Apparently, as hard as having a default font for composing an email. (I've been waiting for 23 years for that. I still don't use Apple's mail program.)

Maybe Apple has plans for left/right swipe that we do not know about.

Anyway, since your feedback to Apple at

https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch