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Lightroom 6 Edit in Photoshop cs6 not working

I got Photoshop working, but now I ran into a new problem. I have Lightroom 6 and when I edit RAW images there and try to open Photoshop directly from there to continue editing, the image does not open in Photoshop. Photoshop itself does open, but not the editable image. I have Camera raw version 10.1 in Lightoom and 7.0.0.308 in Photoshop. The latest version of ACR that works in Photoshop is 9.1, but I haven't been able to find this version anywhere on the internet. Since I have a working old Timemachine backup before the hard disk breaks down and change to an SDD disk, there might be some help there, but I don't know what and where to look for it?

The problems started when I had to change the HDD disk to an SDD disk and in order to get Photoshop cs6 to work on the new SDD disk, I had to do a lot of work due to the registration of the program. The operating system in the iMac is High sierra.

Posted on Dec 2, 2023 11:02 AM

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Servant of Cats

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Posted on Dec 5, 2023 4:44 AM

Macmanfin wrote:

Thanks for the replies. The situation at the moment is that I was able to install the ACR 9.1.1 version in Photoshop and with that I can now open Canon 5D III raw images. But the 5D IV images won't open. Finder Preview also opens the latest raw images, but Photoshop does not recognize them, but asks to update to the latest ACR version.

If it is really the case that that RAW code is written inside Photoshop and is not in a separate file, then it may be impossible to restore it to operation. Assuming that Adobe has updated the CS6 program that I still have available for download from my Adobe account to a version that no longer supports the 5D IV camera.

The Raw code is baked into Lightroom and Lightroom Classic. It is not baked into Photoshop. Photoshop uses Adobe Camera Raw – so to a certain extent, you can upgrade Adobe Camera Raw to add new camera support, without upgrading Photoshop.

I'm guessing that you were using ACR 7.0 – the version that originally came with Photoshop CS6. It wouldn't have had EOS 5D Mark III support. That support requires ACR 7.1 or later. When you downloaded ACR 9.1.1, you would have had "or later."

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html

If that older CS6 version was really such that it still accepted 5D IV raw images from the latest ACR 9.1.1. version. But even then it seems strange that the current 9.1.1. version does not include that support.

Support for the EOS 5D Mark IV did not appear until ACR 9.7.

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Macmanfin Author

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Dec 3, 2023 9:45 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Thank you. What surprises me the most about this whole installation job is that I've had that Canon 5D IV camera for three years and this software combination of mine has worked flawlessly the whole time. That is, I have been able to open all RAW files in Lightroom (including 5D IV) camera files. So my understanding is that this should be brought back to action. I just don't remember which versions of Photoshop I had installed.

I tried looking for information about DNG convertter, but apparently it doesn't work the same way as ARC, ie it can't open a single image from Lightroom to Photoshop? If I have understood correctly. If I'm right, how have these current PS6 and LR6 worked together so far and all raw files have opened directly from Lightroom to Photoshop?

Kurt Lang

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Dec 3, 2023 10:50 AM in response to Macmanfin

Adobe's DNG converter is for taking any camera RAW file it recognizes and turns it into a more generic RAW image. Basically, Adobe is sick and tired of having to constantly add new RAW data to their apps every time a new digital camera comes out. They're trying very hard to get all camera makers to use this format so they can stop doing these constant updates.

Apple is sick of it, too. They also have to constantly add new camera RAW data to Preview, and other apps. On my iPhone 14 Pro, and I would imagine also the iPhone 15, RAW is now a DMG file.

At some point, camera makers are going to have to settle on a single file type, which Adobe has been pushing the DMG format to do for years. If they don't, apps like Preview will, over the decades, slowly turn into a 5 GB app, of which over 4 GB would be hundreds or thousands of camera RAW entries. And it would keep growing. It's either that, or they would have to start removing any model data over xx number of years old. And then people would complain about that.

I'm afraid I can't answer anything about the tie-in between Photoshop and Lightroom. I've used Adobe's apps (starting with Photoshop) since version 3. That's actual version 3, not CS3. But I've never used Lightroom, even though I could install it with my Creative Cloud Photoshop/Lightroom subscription. I handle all of my image archiving in NeoFinder.

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 3, 2023 10:34 PM in response to Servant of Cats

This sounds reasonable. But since I still have a version of Photoshop in Timemachine that worked perfectly before the SSD disk was replaced, aren't there any settings files that contain that ACR information?

Kurt Lang

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Dec 4, 2023 7:03 AM in response to Macmanfin

Shortly before I sold the CS6 software, Camera RAW got an update - which surprised the heck out of me. I didn't pay attention to what camera models it added, but that the CS6 version got any at all was interesting.

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 5, 2023 2:45 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Thanks for the replies. The situation at the moment is that I was able to install the ACR 9.1.1 version in Photoshop and with that I can now open Canon 5D III raw images. But the 5D IV images won't open. Finder Preview also opens the latest raw images, but Photoshop does not recognize them, but asks to update to the latest ACR version.

If it is really the case that that RAW code is written inside Photoshop and is not in a separate file, then it may be impossible to restore it to operation. Assuming that Adobe has updated the CS6 program that I still have available for download from my Adobe account to a version that no longer supports the 5D IV camera.

If that older CS6 version was really such that it still accepted 5D IV raw images from the latest ACR 9.1.1. version. But even then it seems strange that the current 9.1.1. version does not include that support.

I'm not sure if I understand everything I wrote myself. 😊

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 5, 2023 6:06 AM in response to Servant of Cats

Yes, this same information was also found on Adobe's support site. There was a mention that ACR 9.7. was the first version to also support the 5D IV camera. But I have been able to open all 5D IV images from LR to PS for almost 3 years without any problems. Now here's something I can't understand. As a photographer, I work with these photos almost every day to edit them in different programs. And I haven't noticed any difference in which camera I've taken the pictures with.

Now that I have wrestled with this matter for a long time, I vaguely remembered that sometimes when opening the 5D IV from LR to PS for the first few times, a window would appear with a mention that this version does not support this format, but does it still open? I'm not nearly sure about this (my memory), but a flashback like this came to mind from somewhere. But still, there has been some compatibility with these programs and 5D IV images.

I have also tried ACR 9.7. to the computer and it appears to load completely normally through all the steps and finally a text that the installation has been successful. But still I can't find that program anywhere, and of course not Photoshop ACR 9.1.1 either. nothing has changed

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 5, 2023 6:30 AM in response to Macmanfin

My memory wasn't entirely wrong. I found this discussion:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4381849

In other words, someone else has had Lightroom export the images directly to Photoshop, but using LR's own "Render with Lightroom" option. Now I still have to decide how. And I remember that it was like that for me too and I clicked hide that window with the automatic setting, so LR always used its own rendering. I also remember that when this problem came up a couple of days ago, a similar window opened in Lightoom when I tried to export the image to Photoshop. I automatically hid it with "Do not show this window". Can I get it back somewhere because that might be the solution now?

BDAqua

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Dec 3, 2023 12:35 AM in response to Macmanfin

You can try navigating to your Home>Library folder, then Enter Time Machine which should open your Home Library in TM.

BDAqua

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Dec 3, 2023 12:38 AM in response to Macmanfin

Might try one at a time, but Adobe may not be cooperating. :(

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 3, 2023 1:16 AM in response to BDAqua

But I still don't know which files I should search for and replace the current settings with (from Tm)

BDAqua

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Dec 3, 2023 5:05 AM in response to Macmanfin

Good work so far! :)

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 3, 2023 8:03 AM in response to BDAqua

Thanks, but now I still need to figure out how I can get dng converter to work... and from where I can found right version.

Kurt Lang

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Dec 4, 2023 10:28 AM in response to Servant of Cats

That's what surprised me about CS6's Camera RAW getting any kind of update in 2022. But, there it was.

Kurt Lang

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Dec 4, 2023 10:38 AM in response to Servant of Cats

I can't change what happened. I had CS6 open, ran the updater and it said an update for Camera RAW was available. Which it installed.

Macmanfin Author

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Dec 5, 2023 2:25 AM in response to Servant of Cats

Ok. I will check this.

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