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I did not see it with WatchOS 9 or before, but since WatchOS10.2 which reintroduced the Swipe to change faces, the time always displays first as 10:09:31 before setting the correct time one second later. Why is it so ? Is it only me ? Is there a setting to change ? It is really inconvenient.
Apple Watch Series 5
I have submitted feedback asking them to put it back to as it was before. Perhaps if enough of us do it, it will change ?
I have submitted feedback asking them to put it back to as it was before. Perhaps if enough of us do it, it will change ?
Astonishing that this ever made it past QA. What happened to Apple?
Yes mine does this as well. It definitely didn’t use to happen before OS10. So the new toggle they have put in haven’t actually put the functionality back exactly the same as it was before. It is clearly much better now that you can actually swipe between the watch faces but the implementation seems rushed and very amateurish and annoying. The toggle needs to put it back properly to the way it was before OS10. Perhaps in the next update ?
There are other posts that report the same thing.
The watch faces that are not currently on the screen DO NOT get updated until they are the watch face on the screen.
The 10:09 number is what you generally see on any watch advertisement picture, because of the symmetry of the hand placement. This has been carried over to digital watch displays for advertisements as well.
I'm sure Apple is being cute by having the watch faces that are not being updated, display 10:09 as the time before it gets updated. Just a guess.
It is becoming clear that most people in this thread do not understand or have not taken the time to understand the issue here. It is a bug! Always surprises me how quick people are to jump to Apples defence on here. It is unambiguously a bug. To state otherwise can only be trolling or just not understanding. Very odd!
It's been driving me nuts too. I did notice though that most of the info i'm interested in is available when swiping up from the bottom. For example, the date. I miss having a date complication on the Snoopy screens but love the animations especially the apropos ones like raining and waking up. I should probably take some time to arrange the info screens to my liking. (I'd love to see Calvin and Hobbes too.)
I did file a bug report: Dec 13, 2023 at 11:31 PM – FB13466486
Yes, the hour selection is intentional.
The problem is not the value, it is that when the screen appears it shows a time that is not the actual hour just to update 1 second later. This 2 steps set up is not very clean, at least if we refer to usual Apple's standards for UI perfection…
alexrparr wrote:
Yes, but what you are saying is a bit ridiculous - of course it’s a bug - not sure why you keep saying that! It would take an apple developer 5 seconds to see that!!!
Because the value 10:09:30 is not a random number, and Apple uses it in its marketing, along with just about every other watch and clock maker.
And, while I never worked for Apple, I’ve bern a paid software developer 50 years, and I’ve seen stranger things intentionally put into software.
For all we know, it is a battery saving issue. Maybe they were expending power updating all the watch faces the user configured, and found they could save power by not doing that, but did not want the time from the last use of that face to be there for the first tick, the chose to store it away with 10:09:30. Or maybe it is a bug from originally eliminating left/right swipe, and the restoration was fast and dirty, with a quick paste of a 10:09:30 image on the display, until the normal watch face code could do the more complex display generation. I do not know, as I do now work on any code that has a GUI interface, but I do know sometimes you find it is easier to let existing code do its thing, that it is to have redundant code initialize the first appearance.
But you have pointed out it has been multiple releases, with an assumed lots of reporting to Apple (not here, as Apple does not look here for bug reports), yet it has not changed. So either the watchOS 10 rewrites made it hard to initially display the current time for 1 second, or it is intentional, or not enough of the over 200 million Apple Watch users have complained to register with an Apple decision maker.
How could you describe showing the incorrect time as a ‘feature’?
alexrparr wrote:
Yes, but what you are saying is a bit ridiculous - of course it’s a bug - not sure why you keep saying that! It would take an apple developer 5 seconds to see that!!!
I think perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the term "bug". It means "an error, flaw or fault in the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.
It does not mean "a programming or interface choice made by the developers that I don't like".
You can let Apple know your thoughts on the matter here:
If it's not a bug, it is at least a UI regression.
I think it is a bug as well and have logged it with Apple. Hopefully if enough of us do, they will fix it.
alexrparr wrote:
1. It is quite literally the definition of a bug. I think you are not taking the time to understand the issue. Please read carefully for steps to repeat the bug
Apple Watch model MNP83B/A, latest OS
2. Go to clock in settings, turn on swipe to switch watch face
3. Go to your watch face (and great, you can now swipe again), if it has a digital time display
4. Raise your wrist, see the time flicker from the correct time, to 10:09, then to 10:09:30, then to the correct time
5. Repeat over and over, each time it shows 10:09 etc.
This is a bug - and it's been reported to apple developers and they just are not fixing it. Now it is only a small thing, but the major source of frustration is Apple removing features, reintroducing them (with bugs), not fixing them, and then people on this community seeming to be apologists for Apple, when this is quite clearly a major bug in the reintroduced feature!
It does not matter if you convince fellow Apple Watch users in this thread or not.
If you feel it is a bug, you have to direct your energies to convincing Apple.
And that is not going to happen in this forum.
RAA-1 wrote:
Yes mine does this as well. It definitely didn’t use to happen before OS10. So the new toggle they have put in haven’t actually put the functionality back exactly the same as it was before. It is clearly much better now that you can actually swipe between the watch faces but the implementation seems rushed and very amateurish and annoying. The toggle needs to put it back properly to the way it was before OS10. Perhaps in the next update ?
My guess is that it is unlikely to change, as 10:09 and 30 seconds is a magic watch number for just about every manufacture of wrist watches in their marketing.
But in any event, Apple is not here. This is a user-to-user technical support forum.
You can send Apple feedback via:
If enough users send feedback, it is more likely a decision maker will see it, and maybe take action.
claudeFromToulouse wrote:
If it's not a bug, it is at least a UI regression.
A regression also implies a bug, in that something once fixed, has returned.
This is a UI change. It is too much of s coincidence that it is 10:09:30 to be an accident. So it must be intentional.
As with many of the watchOS 10 UI changes, not everyone likes them.
Since Apple is not reading these forums for customer feedback, can tell them via the following URL that you do not like the momentary display of 10:09:30 when switching watch faces.
Swiping Watch faces always display 10:09 before exact time
