Pages to ePub conversion

In 2023 I created an ePub document, and published it in Apple Books, in fixed layout, including end notes, created in Pages. My end note numbers appeared in the resulting text body where they should. Now I have done the same thing today in the same formats, from a different Pages document, and there are no end note numbers (I've not published). I am on Ventura 13.6.2 with a 2023 MacBook Pro M2 computer. The recorded end note numbers in the back of the book appear, since this is in fixed layout and are being considered just text. Both of these were Word > Pages > ePub. Why isn't this working, this time?

MacBook Pro (M2 Pro, 2023)

Posted on Feb 11, 2024 10:08 AM

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Feb 12, 2024 1:27 PM in response to VikingOSX

I have one more concern about both my Pages and ePub documents, only on the 2024 one. It came from a different Word document than 2023, as noted. I have several pages that are blank of text at the very end of the documents. The situation transferred from Pages to ePub as I mentioned in the earlier case. You can see the horizontal "containers" on the sample page from Pages I have included here. The top one is the header and the bottom one the footer, of course, but what are those others? Are they text boxes? What came before those in the text were my End Notes and then my Bibliography. I believe they were typed as normal text. Those blank panels can be typed in, and cut as in cut/paste. However, highlighting and either deleting or using back button has no effect. I can't seem to delete. I know that in publishing or printing, the panels go away, but I am still left with several blank (and paginated) pages. What can I do about this? Thank you.

Feb 12, 2024 2:06 PM in response to VikingOSX

It's the last page in the Word document. I believe I got rid of blank pages (if they existed) in the normal manner for Word: show the formatting marks and delete from there. And all my bibliography entries are there. But the transfer from Word gave the lines to me in Pages. I imagine when I publish the ePub, the blank pages will come right along unnecessarily, unless I can dis-include them at that point. Doubt it.

Feb 15, 2024 7:22 PM in response to VikingOSX

I finished revising my end note numbers into regular text and produced an ePub. All's well, except those little OBJ dashed boxes are appearing randomly in viewing the ePub from an iPhone 14 Pro and a recent iPad mini. NOT on my Book App on my laptop. This did not occur on last year's ePub, I would have noted it; but looking at that ePub from last year now, the same thing now occurs. I did change my default browser on these devices as some strings recommend, in this case from Safari to Firefox. No change. I understand something's trying to make something out of what it can't understand, but it needs to go. A clean PDF is also perfect. What gives? Thank you. . . sorry to bother you again.

Feb 17, 2024 10:21 AM in response to VikingOSX

No worries. First, what is a PITA? I only eat the bread lol. (Ha ha ha I looked it up!) Since we know that character is hiding somewhere in Word, would you want me to download the basic free LibreOffice and drag the Word document to it, save it as a Pages document (if possible), then export that to ePUB (all on my laptop), and view the Apple Books results on my IOS device in 17.3.1? Thank you.

Feb 17, 2024 10:57 AM in response to richardfromhawthorne

LibreOffice 2024.02.0 can open Pages '09 documents, but not Pages documents from Pages v5 -> 13.2. I used LibreOffice to insert that Object Replacement Character in the Word document that did not originally have one as part of a test to see where it propagated.


Although LibreOffice 2024.02.0 has an EPUB3 export feature, it is not as good as Pages. Not even as good as the current Calibre.


There is a way to remove the Object Replacement Characters from an EPUB using the free open source Sigil which opens an EPUB so one can perform a find/replace on the UTF-8 EFBFBC code for that character.


Here is a more pertinent explanation of how those Object Replacement Characters invade Pages documents when you insert images. That individual used Calibre Editor to remove them but Sigil can too.

Feb 17, 2024 1:01 PM in response to richardfromhawthorne

OK. My Apple computer won't open Sigil - security concerns. I went back to Calibre and tried to do what the guy did. Once again, it looks like this explanation is for Windows - there was a reference in the explanation to that effect I think. I copied https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+FFFC and pasted it into find when I had an ePub in Calibre - just dragged the document in (I know nothing about Calibre). It could not find anything. However, viewing the document there in Calibre, the offending icons are still there. Looks like there is also a view there of the document that looks like either code or unformatted text. I'm lost. And once I took the document out of Calibre, it opened up in IOS still with the offenders present.Do you have Dropbox where I could send you the Word, Pages, or the ePub?


Feb 18, 2024 2:52 PM in response to VikingOSX

OK, I have gotten to the point of pasting the icon's coding in the "first chapter" - which is really the ePub's cover, and yes the find field was at the bottom but now it has disappeared and I can't find it. I'm sitting in the editor at that point on one of my screens and I'll remain at that point till I hear from you. I find it is interesting that I have 448 "chapters" to go thru but it is really the 448 pages of the text. So once it starts removing things I shall have to peruse every page of the ePub first and ID and write down every page number that seems to be affected, from my iPad as the guide since it is only my IOS devices that are displaying the little guys. Let me know if I'm on the right path.

Feb 23, 2024 3:33 AM in response to richardfromhawthorne

richardfromhawthorne wrote:

Yes, I just did exactly that again. And . . . it is exactly the same. No find/replace fields at the bottom. I am getting nowhere. I do not know now what to do next. Maybe I have to have a professional fix this for me.

Have a backup of your original Pages and EPUB documents.


I don't see how I can provide further assistance here as we are not working from the same content but seemingly the same version of Calibre ebook-edit.

Feb 24, 2024 4:02 PM in response to VikingOSX

OK. You say: "On that compart site, you right-click in the center of the character outline box and choose copy". Is this where I should be when I perform that, on this screen shot? And also if you remember, my objects that are appearing ONLY in IOS means that I cannot copy/paste from something like that in Apple Books and paste it to Find/Replace on my laptop. If that is what you meant.

Feb 25, 2024 5:15 AM in response to richardfromhawthorne

Yes, you right-click in the center of the character outline box shown in your image above, and choose Copy. Since Calibre's ebook-edit doesn't work on iOS anyway, I assume that you are taking the EPUB created on iOS and transferring it to the Mac in order to find and replace these [obj] in the individual pages.


What I said was very clear after the copy in the first paragraph here. You open the EPUB in ebook-edit on your Mac, and then paste the character code into its Find field. Enter nothing in its Replace field, and then click Replace All for each page of the EPUB. This process has nothing to do with Apple Books until you are done and reopen the EPUB in it to see that the [obj] symbols are gone.

Feb 25, 2024 11:45 AM in response to VikingOSX

No. You say, "I assume that you are taking the EPUB created on iOS and transferring it to the Mac in order to find and replace these [obj] in the individual pages." It is the reverse: I would never have created an ePub on IOS, since that is a phone op system. All my docs, Word>Pages>ePub in this case, are created on my MacBook Pro. When I view them on the laptop (Ventura 13.6.2 where created) there are NO such characters appearing there. They ONLY appear when (still unpublished) viewed in Apple Books on an IOS device like my iPhone or iPad, which is how the majority of readers are also likely to view them. That is the outcome I can't accept, on the belief another reader would see them intruding on their experience. There is no way to prove that except to publish to Books for sale. Maybe there is something wrong with the IOS system allowing their appearance there.

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