Metadata on video files missing when downloaded to Windows 10 PC via iCloud.

This has been functioning 100% for years until THE DAY I updated my iPhone 15 Pro Max to iOS18. Video files taken BEFORE the update still download complete with metadata. So the problem must be iOS18 has changed the file format itself???


I have 2 other devices updated to iOS18 and they exhibit the same problem. So it's not iPhone 15 related.


Metadata is present and correct on PHOTOS downloaded to the PC no problem.


NOTE: The metadata is still present on the file info on the PHONE!


I have contacted Apple about this, but got nowhere. My only hope is someone had the same problem and fixed it with ease and thought nothing of it.


CLUES:

1) if I change the camera format from my usual Most Compatible to High Efficiency, the metadata does download with the video.

2) if I convert the downloaded MOV file to MP4, the metadata re-appears.


The downside to this is, when I download my holiday videos, there's no way of putting them in sequence as the Date Aquired or Taken fields are blank.


Anyone put me out of my misery?


Michael



iPhone 15 Pro Max

Posted on Nov 2, 2024 6:55 AM

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Posted on Jan 20, 2025 11:50 AM

iOS/iPadOS 18 introduced QuickTime FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent tag. It seems currently Windows might be incompatible. If that tag is present, Windows might fail to display thumbnails and most metadata items in its Details panel (Media created, resolution, frame rate, audio details etc).


Until this is fixed in Windows a workaround is to remove it with exiftool v13.09 or later:


exiftool -m -P -overwrite_original -Keys:FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent= movie.mov


High frame rate playback option in iOS/iP… - Apple Community


https://exiftool.org/forum/index.php?topic=16824.0


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Jan 20, 2025 11:50 AM in response to mlhifi

iOS/iPadOS 18 introduced QuickTime FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent tag. It seems currently Windows might be incompatible. If that tag is present, Windows might fail to display thumbnails and most metadata items in its Details panel (Media created, resolution, frame rate, audio details etc).


Until this is fixed in Windows a workaround is to remove it with exiftool v13.09 or later:


exiftool -m -P -overwrite_original -Keys:FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent= movie.mov


High frame rate playback option in iOS/iP… - Apple Community


https://exiftool.org/forum/index.php?topic=16824.0


Feb 11, 2025 12:07 PM in response to Matti Haveri

Thank you for this suggestion – it worked, but only after some additional tweaks.


1.  I first had to change the PowerShell path to the location where exiftool was stored.

2.  I found I had to insert “.\” in front of exiftool at the start of the command:   .\exiftool…

3.  I didn’t want to move all my problem videos into the exiftool folder, so I added a path to the video

file name folder:  d:\pictures\2025\'iphone pictures'\202502__\*.MOV

4.  Note that if the path names include a space, you need to include single quotes around the folder

name.

5.  Final command line syntax:  PS C:\Users\charl\downloads\exiftool\exiftool-13.19_64\exiftool-13.19_64>

.\exiftool -m -P -overwrite_original -Keys:FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent= d:\pictures\2025\'iphone pictures'\202502__\*.MOV


I don’t normally use PowerShell or Command prompt, so my years of using DOS 30 years ago came in handy to figure out the proper syntax to use.  It is very picky.  It cryptically prompts you with your error, but does not tell you how to correct it.


Using the above I was able to convert about 200 files in 6 directories in about 10 minutes.  Very handy!


Now, if we could just get Microsoft to make an update to do this automatically.

Jan 2, 2025 10:01 AM in response to pleeseemailme

I finally settled on Camera P3. It does everything I need but at a cost. £14.95 I can live with that.

What I CAN'T live with is that, after updating to iOS18, I had to going looking for a solution to a problem that should NOT have existed! And it's only taken me ALMOST 4 months and fifteen quid!

However, I must admit that this app gives me way more control over the camera settings than the built-in app does.

So, in a way, thank you Apple.


HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!


Jan 18, 2025 10:14 AM in response to mlhifi

Same problem for me , started somewhere early november .

DSLR Fuji X-T4 = Quicktime .mov files; HEVC ;codec id : hvc1; Rec 709 std file & BT 2020 Full color range;

chroma 4:2:0; 10 bit- Main 10@5.2@High and 100 to 400 Mb/s .METADATA ON EVERY FILE


Iphone : same but BT 2020 color range limited for Main 10@L5.1@High &bit rate from 50 to max 100 Mb/s

or +/- 700 Mb/s and Format profile ProRes 422 HQ in AppleLog .NO MORE METADATA except on 720 p.

Looking at this i think we can exclude the file types because it affects only the file from the Iphone but none from the Fuji.


The data is there because MediaInfo shows it, it's just not visible.


And, when transformed in .mp4 via Handbrake the metadata is visible again.

The big question is : Does it originate from WIN 10 ( yes i'm still on 10 ... and i know why ) or from Apple ?

And since september 2024 i had both the IOS & a WIN 10 update .......


Please Apple , make this right , i don't want to open 150 files in Metadata nor convert the original Apple files into .mp4


Thank you

Feb 13, 2025 11:07 AM in response to charlie95722

Mlhifi, Expanding on my first reply, I did contact Apple Support and the rep was very helpful and understood the issue.  We went thru looking at .mov files from IOS17 that showed thumbnails and meta data in Windows Explorer and then at files from IOS18 that did not show those items.  He was able to see the problem.  He then confirmed that Apple “messed” with the FullFrameRatePlaybackIntent tag in each .mov file (either added that tag or set it to “1”).  He then said that it is up to Microsoft to update their software to handle that new setting – Apple won’t change what they did.


I then contacted Microsoft Support and again got a rep who understood this issue.  He confirmed people have reported it and that “engineers are working it.”  (what ever that actually means).  I told him I had found workarounds but they appeared difficult or time consuming to implement and hoped Microsoft would

make this a priority.  After the call, he did send me an email again confirming Microsoft is working on it and a link to Microsoft’s answers.microsoft.com forum:

iphone videos transfered to W10/11 no longer have thumbnail images nor - Microsoft Community


This post is similar to Matti Haveri’s post in discussions.apple.com, but adds a couple necessary steps.  What I did is:


1.  Download the free “exiftool” for Windows 64 from exiftool.org. It is a zip file.

2.  Extract All from the location where you saved the download – in my case it put the extracted files in a subfolder

3.  Make a copy of the “exiftool(-k).exe” file and rename to “exiftool.exe”

4.  Open the command prompt – this may vary on what version of Windows you are using.  In Windows 11 Pro, right clicking the start menu and selecting “Terminal” opened PowerShell.  The default directory it opens in is your username folder.  Note, the exact syntax may depend on which version of the command prompt you use.

5.  Follow the steps in my first reply.

6.  Once you get the syntax of the command correct, pressing enter should run the exiftool program on the .mov files in the directory you entered.  Then just change to the next directory and run again.  It is very quick.

7.  I take screen shots of the Powershell window so I can refer back to see what worked and what not.  Then when I get the syntax correct, I copy it to a text file to save it for the future.


I didn’t move my .mov files as they are in folders by month taken.  So in my command line text in my first reply, I just changed the name of the folder containing the .mov files.  I did this for each month.  Processing 50 files only takes about 1 min, depending on how large the .mov files are (mine are usually under 15 seconds).


Similarly, you can keep the exiftool.exe in whatever folder you want.  Just change the command line prompt to that directory using the “CD” command.  Then in your command, include the path to the folder your .mov files are in, being careful of proper syntax for folders with spaces in their name.


I am 80 and was able to figure it out.  If you are only in your 70’s, and used to use DOS, you can do it too!


Charlie

Nov 8, 2024 3:00 AM in response to 72clg

Yes, I discovered the same, MOV to MP4 and metadata is available once again.

Windows 10, in the store, does a simple program that does that in bulk too. Very useful.

It's called "Any Video Converter" in case you are not aware of it.

No idea how many it can do at one time, but I've done 6 in one go.

Your screen grabs are exactly the same as mine, before and after. It is definitely iOS 18 that caused this. I spent far too long on the phone with Apple but got nowwhere.

Dec 26, 2024 2:42 AM in response to pleeseemailme

Hi,

Your photos should still be ok with regard metadata after iOS18.


With videos, I still have the problem. Only 2 ‘solutions’ although not perfect.


1) in camera settings, set 1080p HD at 30fps (High Efficiency). This gives you metadata although shows as 720p despite the setting 🤷‍♂️

2) use the Blackmagic camera app. This does give metadata and 1080p but is quite complicated.


I am still investigating the Camera P3 app but I need to be sure first before paying for it. There is a free version but I can’t record in H264 without actually paying; I think!


Sorry I can’t give you much more than that.


However, if you find a solution, please let me know on this thread.


Good luck.

Apr 8, 2025 2:50 AM in response to Nsackley

Nsackley


There’s a new tag in the metadata on Apple videos and, yes, Microsoft needs to recognise it for this to go back the way it was before iOS18. I can’t see Apple removing it. On a Mac it will still work fine of course.


If you look back through this thread, you’ll find a workaround to get metadata back. I’ve used it and it does work on multiple files very fast!

Nov 3, 2024 1:26 AM in response to ghostanime2001

It’s annoying because it worked flawlessly up until iOS18.

I was hopeful iOS18.1 would solve the issue but sadly not.

I looked at the root directory of the iPhone and found the videos concerned. Downloaded them directly to the PC but still no metadata.

As I mentioned, if I use High Efficiency mode, the metadata is present once again but the resolution is only 720. But that is an option.


Jan 24, 2025 6:17 AM in response to Bidou013

Bidou013 wrote:

I have just the metadata missing, thumbs are fine. Should I just install exiftool and use command prompt ( I still call it dos ) or is this done trough another type of command in exiftool.?

Metadata might be missing for other reasons. Social media sites like Facebook, WhatsApp etc delete metadata if the images were routed through them. AFAIK that new iOS/iPadOS tag might prevent both metadata and thumbnails from appearing.


But you might test it on some movies. exiftool can be downloaded from the page below and used via the Windows command line.


https://exiftool.org/

Dec 26, 2024 6:05 AM in response to mlhifi

Thanks for the quick response. I can confirm my photos are just fine and it's the videos that are not working. Unfortunately, my version of iPhone only offers the 'high efficiency' option at 4k and 60fps.


And I don't want to change the other setting to make all photos/videos high efficiency, because the heic format for photos also omits certain metadata fields I use on Windows.


Regarding a workaround, I've actually been using the 'ProCam' app for a few years now. It will (and still does) record videos in .mov format and allow all the metadata to work on PC. My main issue there is just remembering to open my phone and use ProCam instead of the ios camera that I can access from the lock screen.


My next step is going to be to look for some kind of converter app for either my phone or PC that will save all the metadata that is actually there on the new .mov formatting, but just won't show up on PC. It's just remarkably unfortunate that I have to go and find (and likely pay for) another app to work with my Apple videos on PC.


Thanks again; and good luck on your journey too. Let me know what you find.

Nov 3, 2024 9:15 AM in response to mlhifi

mlhifi wrote:

It’s annoying because it worked flawlessly up until iOS18.
I was hopeful iOS18.1 would solve the issue but sadly not.
I looked at the root directory of the iPhone and found the videos concerned. Downloaded them directly to the PC but still no metadata.
As I mentioned, if I use High Efficiency mode, the metadata is present once again but the resolution is only 720. But that is an option.

Did you by any chance record the video in HEVC format from the beginning ?

Nov 4, 2024 6:34 AM in response to ghostanime2001

No, absolutely not. I've always recorded videos in 1920 x 1080 in H.264.


It is true that when in MOV format, there's no metadata and in MP4, metadata is present.


To re-iterate, if I download ANY other videos from iCloud PRIOR to iOS18, they download in MOV format but with metadata in tact. For now, I am going to switch to HEVC until I can find a workaround.


The left half is from a video 3 days ago and the right half is a video I took 4 days prior to iOS18.


I am lost. I really appreciate your time.






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