I cannot open most apps after and pre Sequoia 15.2 upgrade and a reinstall of the OS too. It's back to being slooooow very much like Sonoma did. It feels like tow years of fighting the Mac, something we always seem to be doing with a PC!
iMac 21.5″, macOS 15.2
Is the user using a iMac 2019 that was previously running Sonoma that was sluggish prior to updating to Sonoma ?
A 2019 iMacs can come with a Fusion Drive or also an ALL SSD Drive configuration
Fusion Drives are good for Additional Storage but at the expense of a negative performs hit especially when running under Sonoma or Sequoia
These versions of macOS are really specifically engineered to run at tip top performance on SSD Drives
Anyways, all this information would show up in the Etrecheck report if you care to run and share this report
Post back the Full Report - copy and paste - >>>> using the Additional Text Icon <<<<
Is the user using a iMac 2019 that was previously running Sonoma that was sluggish prior to updating to Sonoma ?
A 2019 iMacs can come with a Fusion Drive or also an ALL SSD Drive configuration
Fusion Drives are good for Additional Storage but at the expense of a negative performs hit especially when running under Sonoma or Sequoia
These versions of macOS are really specifically engineered to run at tip top performance on SSD Drives
Anyways, all this information would show up in the Etrecheck report if you care to run and share this report
Post back the Full Report - copy and paste - >>>> using the Additional Text Icon <<<<
PRP_53 wrote:
[...] Fusion Drives are good for Additional Storage but at the expense of a negative performs hit especially when running under Sonoma or Sequoia
These versions of macOS are really specifically engineered to run at tip top performance on SSD Drives
I agree. Three years ago, I bought a used 2019 21.5" iMac, 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7 6 core, 8 GB ram, running on macOS Monterey, which I found to be very sluggish compared to my previous 2007 20" iMac, which I had upgraded with an SSD, running on El Capitan. So I bought a 1TB NVMe SSD Crucial P3 and a compatible external case and have been using it as my boot drive ever since. It has been running fast and smoothly, without any issues for three years. But with only 8GB ram I might stick to Monterey, I'm not sure that it would run smoothly on Sequoia. PS, have you tried DetecX Swift instead of Etrecheck?
Stevenleprev wrote:
Is there any way to make 15.2 faster?
My system is almost unworkable
As others have done, you would need to provide the free EtreCheck report to see what is slowing your computer down.
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There are some categories of apps that have been seen to slow the computer down and are not recommended to be installed:
Your current beach balling issue is with McAfee and has nothing to do with RAM. I agree with your assessment on purchasing the machine with the most amount of RAM you can afford and you are fine with your 64GB machine. No amount of RAM is going to prevent the beach balling due to using McAfee software. In fact you can expect them with any of these types of apps too:
Respectfully, from a senior to another senior.
No one was cheated. It’s up to the buyer to do their due diligence before purchasing.
Apple computers have changed over the years. Some can’t have RAM or internal drive upgrades after purchase because newer computers have these components soldered to the logicboard.
Here’s the disk information:
- disk0: APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E632 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 5400 RPM)
- disk0s2 [APFS Fusion Drive] 1000.00 GB
- disk1: APPLE SSD SM0032L 28.00 GB (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)
The computer is running out of free space.
System extensions:
- DuckDuckGo VPN Network Extension - version 1.115.0 (Duck Duck Go, Inc. - installed 2024-11-27)
- Surfshark (App Store - installed 2024-11-06)
Running a VPN and Surfshark.
Commercial VPNs may not be as they seem.
lbc7 wrote:
I still have Sonoma , today nothing works on both my 2021 desktop as well as my MacBook . It’s so frustrating cause i can’t do my work when nothing is working!! Apple fock the AI just get it working plzzz !! Not a fan of AI anyways!!!
It is unclear what the issue is that you are having. If nothing works and your Mac is not able to start up, then it will likely need diagnostic done by Apple by scheduling an appointment. If you can start the Mac up, then posting the free EtreCheck report as the OP did is the best way to see if there is anything conflicting on startup.
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The other option is to reset to Factory Settings, but you will want to make sure you have a solid backup first.
Here is the suggested Etrecheck Report.
EtreCheckPro version: 6.8.7 (68068)
Report generated: 2024-12-15 00:47:52
Download EtreCheckPro from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 8:00
Performance: Below Average
Problem: Apps are crashing
Description:
Reported to Apple Community but Sequoia 15.2 update took a long time
to update my iMac 2019,6GHz 6-core i5, Radeon Pro 560X 4GB, 8GB 2667 M
Hz DDR4
It had to be in safe boot mode to install as it failed three times.
Major Issues:
Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.
Time Machine backup out-of-date - The last Time Machine backup is over 10 days old.
Minor Issues:
These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvement.
Apps crashing - There have been numerous app crashes.
Apps hanging - There have been numerous app hangs.
Apps with heavy CPU usage - There have been numerous cases of apps with heavy CPU usage.
Unsigned files - There are unsigned software files installed. These files could be old, incompatible, and cause problems. They should be reviewed.
Low performance - EtreCheck report took an unusually long time to run.
Sharing enabled - This computer has sharing services enabled that could be a security risk.
Hardware Information:
iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2019)
Status: Supported
iMac Model: iMac19,2
3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 (i5-8500) CPU: 6-core
8 GB RAM - Upgradeable by an Apple Authorized Service Provider
BANK 0/ChannelA-DIMM0 - 4 GB DDR4 2667
BANK 2/ChannelB-DIMM0 - 4 GB DDR4 2667
Sequoia 15.3 has just been released so the first thing to do is update to it. It has a number of bug fixes as well as security updates.
If it's been less that 15 days since you purchased the laptop you can take it back for a full refund or a replacement no questions asked.
Not much to go on without more info. FWIW, Sequoia 15.2 is certainly not sluggish on the three Macs I have it installed on.
Thank you for sharing the above.
Yes, all SSD drives are really what macOS is expecting and perform the best on.
Somewhere around macOS 11 and above.
It is widely accepted by many, that Apple has designed these versions of macOS which this in mind.
That does not mean macOS will not function on Rotational / Spinner dries are the Combo Fusion Drive.
It just may not perform to the expectations for some
Globet wrote:
[...] On my 2019 iMac I went with 64GB, and I haven't had any obvious sluggishness right through to Sequoia 15.2 (except for some operations with McAfee LiveSafe - long periods of "beachballing").
Your beachballing is probably caused by the very McAfee LiveSafe app that you installed. I suggest that you read this thread: Recommendations on using Security softwar… - Apple Community
Since you're problem is totally different from the author's you should start your own topic after reading the following user tip and restate your question/problem in detail:
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I had the same problem and a complete flush of browsing history fixed it.
You can take it back to Apple for a full refund, no questions asked, within 15 days of purchase. You seem to be in that window so take it back.
It depends on what processor you are running, also how much RAM you have installed and what apps you are running in the background. I always have found that as Apple updates and adds software the hardware has a harder time processing it thus the sluggish performance of the Mac. After updating the OS there will be a time that the make will be slow since Spotlight probably reindexing.
Sequoia 15.2 upgrade causing a very sluggish machine.
