If you make an appointment at the Genius Bar or call the phone number I provided in a previous post, you get to talk to a REAL LIVE PERSON so which point am I missing? Complaining on these forums is not going to get you customer service since everyone here is just a user. To reiterate, if YOU have an issue, YOU need to either call the phone number and wait on hold like everyone else or YOU need to make an appointment at the Genius Bar.
Apple bends over backwards for the customer. People had cry baby fits about an insignificant antenna problem that affected less than .5% of all iPhone4s and Apple did the free case program. Apple also waived the restocking fee if people decided to return their phone.
This is the last post I will make on this discussion.
I don't wish to make this personal but, Tamara, I do believe you are missing the point.
It appears you believe Apple is not capable of getting anything wrong.
I did not complain about the antenna nonsense. In fact, I purchased my iP4 AFTER that came to notice because, like you, I suspected it was a lot of fuss about nothing. I also have no intention at this time of demanding a refund for my phone. I realise the odd faulty product will slip through.
I love Apple products and have converted several relatives and friends to the benefits of Apple products. I am not a whinger who complains about everything just for the sake of it.
However, to buy an iP4 which proves faulty, only for it to be replaced with another iP4 which is faulty, for there not to be a substitute to be used whilst either are away to be "repaired" and for there not to be an easy way to inform Apple of these facts without spending ages on the phone listening to a machine is not acceptable if Apple wants the small person like me to feel their custom is valued.
If the largest car manufacturer in the world can provide an easy way to solve genuine complaints, why can't Apple?
It is a simple truth to state that if I treated any of my customers in this way, they would vote with their feet.
As I own so many Apple products it is in my interest for them to continue to be successful. However Apple need to set up an easy way for people with genuine complaints to get them resolved without spending hours trawling through their website and forums looking for contact details or listening to a machine.
My original question was, is there a complaints department in the UK. I guess not. I believe Apple need to address this issue urgently if they wish to continue to grow.
also does not actually answer my query,is not open outside of office hours.......etc.....simple question,do not post a reply unless you have a valid answer.....is there a U.K. complaints dept......don't want answer machines etc......bizarrely would like to write a formal complaint to a real person who knows what they are talking about and get an answer back.....too much to ask for in this modern 52nd state society...or however many their happens to be in the USA plus 1......us..... UK !
If you want to complain, you can either pay money and call the phone number. It doesn't magically stop working after 90 days OR you can make an appointment at the Genius Bar. This has been said repeatedly and you seem to suffer reading comprehension since you keep asking the same thing over and over.
I'm done with this thread so don't bother replying to me.
"This is the last post I will make on this discussion."
No I do not work for Apple. I have no particular allegiance to them at all.
Most companies that I am aware of do not have a "Complaint Department", just as yours does not. Most you would call/e-mail to an appropriate department from the contact list. This is what has been suggested to you.
Not really sure why you want an entire department to field your complaint. Can you not visit the store or call/e-mail someone from the "Contact Us" link?
"In Bloomberg BusinessWeek's fourth annual customer service rankings released late last week, Apple placed third behind catalog retail site L.L. Bean and insurance company USAA, a new high for the company."
Owned it longer than 90 days....only get support for that length of time.
You only get free telephone support for 90 days UNLESS the problem is one that would be covered by the product warranty in which case you're not charged for the call. And regardless, you can still ask for Customer Relations.
simple question,do not post a reply unless you have a valid answer
I posted a valid answer, the only one anyone here can give you. Please do not post a reply unless you are willing to be polite to those who are attempting to help you. No one here gets paid to help; everyone is a fellow user and owes you not one second of their time.
And yes, it
does answer your question: call the Apple tech support line and ask to speak with someone in Customer Relations. That's the "complaint department" and, other than just using Apple's normal technical support resources, is the only place that can listen to your complaint (which I hope you'll make more politely than you have here to those to don't have any financial interest in whether or not you're happy) get you any sort of resolution.
If you are unwilling to call during normal office hours, that's your choice. I doubt that any major manufacturer has any sort of 24-hour/7 day "complaint department".
would like to write a formal complaint to a real person who knows what they are talking about and get an answer back
There is no such place. You can write to Apple if you wish, but you need to talk to Apple Customer Relations if you want any sort of resolution. If you're not willing to do that, or take any of the other actions people have suggested, then there's nothing more anyone else here can suggest.
I'm done now. It's clear you just want to be rude and snippy, no matter what anyone tells you, and I have no more time to waste in trying and help someone who won't accept the suggestions you're given.
cant add much more to the support side of things other than: no matter how long you have the phone it is covered by an Apple warranty of 1 year!
so if its a hardware issue you can walk into an Apple shop and get a replacement no matter where you got the phone from or what provider you are with!
thats how the Iphone is supported; and that i would suggest, as others here have, is how you would complain as well!
however regardless of that; i notice you say it started again after you reinstalled everything. did you try to phone without restoring everything? did you test it for a few days without a full restore; maybe only contacts? it simply might be an app that is causing the issue or some "bugged" installation that your backup is restoring and causing the issue.
might not be, but at this point id suggest its worth a try.
Thanks for your advice. I'll try using it for a few days first before re-entering the contacts. If I get further problems I'll take it to the Genius Bar even though it's over 50 miles away. But I am not confident that they will replace it. (see below).
I think I noticed a comment about, it doesn't matter where you buy your Apple you can get it replaced at an Apple store if it's defective, or words to that effect. Unless procedures in the UK have changed, that was not my experience.
About 18 months ago I purchased an iMac from the Apple online store. It developed a fault (the eventual diagnosis was leaky ram, whatever that is) so I took it to the nearest Apple store. The response I got was "Sorry, but the online store is a different company. You will have to refer your problem to them".
I have since replaced that iMac and had no further problems but that experience has probably increased my annoyance with the iPhone 4.
PS. I did intend to make "the last post" just that, but I inadvertently left my computer on standby for a short while whilst still logged on and my account was hijacked. Teenagers, bizarre sense of humour. Still, my fault for being a bit careless.
I'd like to congratulate you on keeping your calm in the face of, what seems to me, to be a rather unhelpful and slightly aggressive, set of responses. I would also like to find a simple old fashioned thing like an address, to which I can send off a comment about some rather poor service, in the hope that someone at a slightly higher level of management than a call centre operative, might actually take some notice. I am not hopeful.
Granted, it does. But a corporate address in America, or the UK's best equivalent which is for Apple Sales International in Ireland, is not really the same as a reasonably-easy-to-contact complaints department, and I wouldn't have any confidence that a letter sent to one of those two addresses would actually find its way to someone at Apple who cares.
In essence, there does not appear to be a straightforward way of saying to someone at Apple, "I am unhappy with this aspect of the service that I have paid for you to provide, and I want my dissatisfaction to be noted, and hopefully acted upon, so that your service can be improved".
