iphone 8 poor/sensitive mic during call

Just got a new iPhone 8 (updated to ios 11.0.2) upgraded from iPhone 6. When making a call if not talking directly into the mic the person on the other end cannot hear me (or my voice volume is drastically lower). This occurs when even slightly moving the phone away from my mouth or rotating the phone slightly up or down. My father has the same problem with his iPhone 8, even returned it and got a new one, same problem. Switching to speaker phone solves the problem. Also noting it does not happen all the time and a hard reset can fix it for a bit but then it goes back to the bad behavior.


Has anyone else experienced this?

iPhone 8, iOS 11.0.2

Posted on Oct 5, 2017 7:48 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2018 11:14 AM

I found this interesting post on a similar mic issue thread for the iPhone X (thanks to brentwoodkennyg):


I sound muffled or underwater, but only sometimes. Other calls are perfect. Tried all of the fixes in this forum - Network reset, LTE off/on, full reset, wi-fi calls off. Noise cancellation off. With and without cover. Got a replacement phone from the Apple store. None of it helped and now I know why...


The issue turned out to be how I was holding the phone. There are three microphones on the X and one of them is located by the camera on the back of the phone. Even though I didn't cover it while holding the X (with fingers and thumb on the sides of the phone, I apparently was close enough to make that mic behave differently. When I move my phone-holding position in the same grip to the bottom part of the phone, the problems vanish. I have run through a series of test with my "complainers" and this seems to pinpoint the root cause. It's either user error or a design flaw, but there is a simple workaround. Hold the phone at the bottom of the case and definitely not near the top. Problem Solved!


Update as to why this works: Apple has designed noise cancellation into the talking side of the phone. (This is different than the noise cancellation in the Accessibility settings - those are for the listening not speaking). Anyway, there is a small mic on the back of the X by the camera. It's purpose is to listen for ambient noise (think crowded bar) and to cancel that noise from what it hears from the mics on the front at bottom of the phone. Those mics hear your voice talking plus they hear the ambient noise (crowded bar). The software "subtracts" the bar sound from what it hears on the front and the listener never hears the bar noise - just your voice. (You can test this by completely covering the back mic hole with your finger - then the listener hears the bar noise and has trouble hearing your voice).


Anyway, this is a really great feature - except that if you hold the phone near the top, it channels part of your voice into that back mic and it ends up canceling out all or part of your voice. So I have to hold my phone at the bottom and things work fine. This also explains problems with folding phone cases and issues when you are holding the phone between neck and shoulder.

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Jan 5, 2018 9:02 AM in response to KeithJ80

I can confirm this is an issue with iPhone X which I just discovered on my first conference call with it. I do conference calls several times a week and never had this problem with the iPhone 6s this X replaced.


My use case: on the 6s I would plug in earbuds and use the phone's built in mics to do the call. It worked awesome! Tried the same with the IPhone X using a headphone/charge port adapter, same earbuds. I have a quiet office environment from where I make the calls.


My symptoms with the iPhone X:

  1. with earbuds plugged in, people complain they can hardly hear me.
  2. As soon as I unplug the earbuds and use the "speaker" function (from the call screen), everyone says they can hear me normally


Based on the change in audibility transitioning from 1-->2 above, it can't be a hardware issue such as a case. It is either:


  1. there are multiple mics, but some get turned off when earbuds are in for some reason (bug)
  2. as others point out, there maybe something wrong with the noise cancellation which for some reason doesn't happen when in speakerphone mode, but happens when earbuds are plugged in (bug)


This is an impactful problem for me. I use the iphone for business and using earbuds for conference calls lets me hear everything much better than through the speaker, especially with offshore conference calls. If it doesn't get corrected, I need to look at a droid phone if I can exchange or definitely on the next go around. If I keep it, it sounds like I may need to invest in some external hardware because of Apple's software problem. It's disappointing Apple is dismissing this as a case problem. Quality and customer service are falling off ever so slightly year over year.

Feb 13, 2018 2:28 AM in response to KeithJ80

Hello,


I have also had this problem, my iPhone 8 has just come back from the apple authorised repair facility.


They inform me that they have performed extensive tests and found nothing wrong. If I find that the problem still exists (it does) then to reset the phone to its factory settings and set it up as a new phone without using a back up. I have not done this yet but plan to do it at the weekend just to see if there is something corrupt in my backup.


My back up has been used on various through the years and I can only assume that the repair facility believe it is corrupted in some way.


Is there anyone who is experiencing this microphone problem that has set up their phone from scratch? (Without using a backup saved in iCloud)

Mar 27, 2018 2:22 PM in response to sternejohn

It's a problem with Apple's choice to make the 7 and 8 phones have the ability to screen out background noise... but some phones screen out our voices as background noise. Holding the phone's mike (bottom of phone) right next to your mouth helps. Speaker phone cures problem--but who wants the speaker phone on during all your conversations?
I've been told the best solution is to go back to iPhone 6. Planning to do so.

Apr 5, 2018 9:14 AM in response to Apple falls far from old Apple

I'm sure there are so many customers in that same boat. Not knowing its some big old issue with Apple, that isnt going to get fixed by them... If you are not leaving Apple or cant or dont want to do the Edge Up program (Verizon has this option), which allows you to get out of your phone. You do have to pay the rest of your contract if you are not quite to the 12 month payments made. Make sure you get a replacement phone and complain big time to them. But call your carrier, dont go into a store front of your carrier. Talk to Tech Support and not Sales. Use the phone and talk like normal and not on speaker phone and they will hear the issue, trust me, my Verizon Rep sure did and she couldnt believe it. I said, i've been fighting this for 4 months now. Tell them you want a replacement phone Now. Hopefully it will be a better phone but my 3 replacement ones sure were not! So, I switched to Samsung last week!!!

Oct 24, 2017 8:15 PM in response to vdarmr

I have the same problem I just got my new 8plus about a week ago and my wife keeps telling me that she can’t hear me when I move it away from my mouth. I called Apple care and the noticed the issue when I was talking to them so they set an appointment for me at the local Apple store when I when to meet the Genius Bar the guy told me that I have to live with it that it must be normal I told him he has to be wrong my wife has a Samsung note5 and she can move the phone up or down and I can hear her with no problems so I think there is an issue with the mic on the iPhone 8 .

Nov 12, 2017 5:06 PM in response to Rachel_T

I have had the exact same issue with my iPhone 7 as have all my staff(I bought them all an iPhone 7).

I have been looking forward to a new model to be released so I could get rid of my 7, it has been the absolute vain of my existence since I bought it.. I even went to the Genius Bar and while lining up there were three other people in the line complaining of the same issue. When I asked the technician if he had ever heard of the issue that I'm having he replied"Not exactly like that" ( he lied)..they replaced the phone with a new iPhone 7 and I have had the same issue!! go figure!

After reading your complaint re the iPhone 8, I'm not sure what to do!!!

The fundamental basic reason for having a phone is to make calls, everything else is a bonus. Apple needs to get this right...I am now an incredibly unhappy client that has been repeatedly lied to by Apple.

Regards


Tim

Nov 22, 2017 6:51 AM in response to KeithJ80

Bought an 8s 3 weeks ago and I've the same problem and was calling Apple support. The said that I've bring the phone to a Apple store and they will repair it. I did update to iOS 11.1.2 without success. I did restore the iPhone completely and it doesn't work.

But then I was testing the iPhone 8s with several apps and wondering me: In using Wattsapp call my voice was clear and understandable. I have no clue what's wrong with the micro but it's very frustrating as I have to use the phone for business.

But it seems to be that Apple doesn't care about......it's absolutely annoying!

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