iphone 8 poor/sensitive mic during call

Just got a new iPhone 8 (updated to ios 11.0.2) upgraded from iPhone 6. When making a call if not talking directly into the mic the person on the other end cannot hear me (or my voice volume is drastically lower). This occurs when even slightly moving the phone away from my mouth or rotating the phone slightly up or down. My father has the same problem with his iPhone 8, even returned it and got a new one, same problem. Switching to speaker phone solves the problem. Also noting it does not happen all the time and a hard reset can fix it for a bit but then it goes back to the bad behavior.


Has anyone else experienced this?

iPhone 8, iOS 11.0.2

Posted on Oct 5, 2017 7:48 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2018 11:14 AM

I found this interesting post on a similar mic issue thread for the iPhone X (thanks to brentwoodkennyg):


I sound muffled or underwater, but only sometimes. Other calls are perfect. Tried all of the fixes in this forum - Network reset, LTE off/on, full reset, wi-fi calls off. Noise cancellation off. With and without cover. Got a replacement phone from the Apple store. None of it helped and now I know why...


The issue turned out to be how I was holding the phone. There are three microphones on the X and one of them is located by the camera on the back of the phone. Even though I didn't cover it while holding the X (with fingers and thumb on the sides of the phone, I apparently was close enough to make that mic behave differently. When I move my phone-holding position in the same grip to the bottom part of the phone, the problems vanish. I have run through a series of test with my "complainers" and this seems to pinpoint the root cause. It's either user error or a design flaw, but there is a simple workaround. Hold the phone at the bottom of the case and definitely not near the top. Problem Solved!


Update as to why this works: Apple has designed noise cancellation into the talking side of the phone. (This is different than the noise cancellation in the Accessibility settings - those are for the listening not speaking). Anyway, there is a small mic on the back of the X by the camera. It's purpose is to listen for ambient noise (think crowded bar) and to cancel that noise from what it hears from the mics on the front at bottom of the phone. Those mics hear your voice talking plus they hear the ambient noise (crowded bar). The software "subtracts" the bar sound from what it hears on the front and the listener never hears the bar noise - just your voice. (You can test this by completely covering the back mic hole with your finger - then the listener hears the bar noise and has trouble hearing your voice).


Anyway, this is a really great feature - except that if you hold the phone near the top, it channels part of your voice into that back mic and it ends up canceling out all or part of your voice. So I have to hold my phone at the bottom and things work fine. This also explains problems with folding phone cases and issues when you are holding the phone between neck and shoulder.

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Oct 29, 2018 7:48 PM in response to Pco1

I had my 8+ replaced too. Seemed better for a few weeks - at least I did not get any complaints from people who I was talking with, then same problem comes back, people telling me they cannot hear me. They tell me my voice is muffled, not clear, low volume, and the sound quality is intermittent, sometimes ok, but not great, then at other times it is bad. This from an Apple tech who experienced my phone's poor voice quality first hand. Interesting the problem is only when talking on handset. When talking on speaker, people tell me it's good. So go figure, in the old days, people hated the sound quality of speaker phone, now they prefer speaker phone to handset when they communicate with me on this 8+.

So sorry, no Apple solution here. Trouble is, even if I get an iPhone upgrade with any of the just released phones, these days with Apple one cannot trust it will be free from one problem or another. So, I'm going to Samsung, to get what ever is the upgrade to the S9+ when it comes out - or just pick up a S9+.

My daughter has same problem with her 8+. I hear the poor voice quality every time she calls me. She's on a different carrier.

Dec 26, 2017 12:48 PM in response to Livingtru

If you are reading everything you will see that updates and noise cancellation adjustments don’t work. The other microphones work better than the main apple microphone but it is because of software not hardware


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