iphone 8 poor/sensitive mic during call

Just got a new iPhone 8 (updated to ios 11.0.2) upgraded from iPhone 6. When making a call if not talking directly into the mic the person on the other end cannot hear me (or my voice volume is drastically lower). This occurs when even slightly moving the phone away from my mouth or rotating the phone slightly up or down. My father has the same problem with his iPhone 8, even returned it and got a new one, same problem. Switching to speaker phone solves the problem. Also noting it does not happen all the time and a hard reset can fix it for a bit but then it goes back to the bad behavior.


Has anyone else experienced this?

iPhone 8, iOS 11.0.2

Posted on Oct 5, 2017 7:48 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2018 11:14 AM

I found this interesting post on a similar mic issue thread for the iPhone X (thanks to brentwoodkennyg):


I sound muffled or underwater, but only sometimes. Other calls are perfect. Tried all of the fixes in this forum - Network reset, LTE off/on, full reset, wi-fi calls off. Noise cancellation off. With and without cover. Got a replacement phone from the Apple store. None of it helped and now I know why...


The issue turned out to be how I was holding the phone. There are three microphones on the X and one of them is located by the camera on the back of the phone. Even though I didn't cover it while holding the X (with fingers and thumb on the sides of the phone, I apparently was close enough to make that mic behave differently. When I move my phone-holding position in the same grip to the bottom part of the phone, the problems vanish. I have run through a series of test with my "complainers" and this seems to pinpoint the root cause. It's either user error or a design flaw, but there is a simple workaround. Hold the phone at the bottom of the case and definitely not near the top. Problem Solved!


Update as to why this works: Apple has designed noise cancellation into the talking side of the phone. (This is different than the noise cancellation in the Accessibility settings - those are for the listening not speaking). Anyway, there is a small mic on the back of the X by the camera. It's purpose is to listen for ambient noise (think crowded bar) and to cancel that noise from what it hears from the mics on the front at bottom of the phone. Those mics hear your voice talking plus they hear the ambient noise (crowded bar). The software "subtracts" the bar sound from what it hears on the front and the listener never hears the bar noise - just your voice. (You can test this by completely covering the back mic hole with your finger - then the listener hears the bar noise and has trouble hearing your voice).


Anyway, this is a really great feature - except that if you hold the phone near the top, it channels part of your voice into that back mic and it ends up canceling out all or part of your voice. So I have to hold my phone at the bottom and things work fine. This also explains problems with folding phone cases and issues when you are holding the phone between neck and shoulder.

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Feb 27, 2018 8:54 AM in response to zookeeper146

Totally agree with you about how many are out there suffering in silence. I just found this forum last week, but have been yelling to myself daily about how terrible the iPhone 8 is and finally just googled my iPhone is a POS and this forum came up. Pathetic that nothing is being done except our comments being removed and people blocked from speaking the truth. I posted a link to this forum on my Facebook page in hopes of alerting others to join in the pressure to fix our phones.

Feb 27, 2018 9:01 AM in response to cherefromfredericksburg

Great idea. Yea, 20 pages worth....thats a lot. Not happy that Apple thinks, just replace the phone with another that is just as bad is a solution. I mean, do they have a crate full of these crap phones they are giving people who complain. I really wonder. Hopefully Apple will get the hint and fix our issues. Thanks for posting on Facebook. Maybe its an old school, physical letter we write to Apple HQ and send it and have this link written on the letter and say, go read whats going on. I'm thinking that is our only option at this point. I'm on my second iphone 8 plus and still having more and more issues arise with it. Its like they received a Bad Bad batch of phones or someone is sabotaging the orders. My wifes iphone 8 plus has Zero issues. she has the Gold/Pink one. Mine is the Space Gray. So i bet we all got a bad batch.

Mar 3, 2018 5:40 AM in response to KeithJ80

Exact same issue. Bought a friend an iPhone 8 plus. Upgrade from iPhone 6s Plus. With the 8 plus, no one can hear my friend when she talks. I researched this on the internet, and many seem to have this problem. We are about to take out the Simm chip from the 8 plus and put it back into the 6 Plus. I will have to sell the 8 plus to Gazelle. A good $600+ loss! Apple is so horribly arrogant, they will never admit they have a problem. Image how embarrassing this is to Apple. When a person has to return to an iPhone THREE YEARS OLD (!!!) -- to get a better phone -- than a brand new iPhone. What a company Tim Cook runs.

Oct 6, 2017 5:42 PM in response to AppleJoe

Thanks. Yes, tried all that. Nothing is blocking the mic (I don't use a cover or anything). Mic seems to work fine for voice memo. It also seems fine when using the speakerphone. But in a call, not using the speakerphone, just the slightest movement of the phone away from my mouth and the caller on the other end has trouble hearing me. I've had the iPhone 4s, 5s, 6 and now 8 and have never experienced this. As I said, not isolated to my phone either. My father's phone (new iPhone 8) does the same. He even went to the Apple store and had it replaced, same behavior.

Oct 24, 2017 8:15 PM in response to vdarmr

I have the same problem I just got my new 8plus about a week ago and my wife keeps telling me that she can’t hear me when I move it away from my mouth. I called Apple care and the noticed the issue when I was talking to them so they set an appointment for me at the local Apple store when I when to meet the Genius Bar the guy told me that I have to live with it that it must be normal I told him he has to be wrong my wife has a Samsung note5 and she can move the phone up or down and I can hear her with no problems so I think there is an issue with the mic on the iPhone 8 .

Nov 12, 2017 5:06 PM in response to Rachel_T

I have had the exact same issue with my iPhone 7 as have all my staff(I bought them all an iPhone 7).

I have been looking forward to a new model to be released so I could get rid of my 7, it has been the absolute vain of my existence since I bought it.. I even went to the Genius Bar and while lining up there were three other people in the line complaining of the same issue. When I asked the technician if he had ever heard of the issue that I'm having he replied"Not exactly like that" ( he lied)..they replaced the phone with a new iPhone 7 and I have had the same issue!! go figure!

After reading your complaint re the iPhone 8, I'm not sure what to do!!!

The fundamental basic reason for having a phone is to make calls, everything else is a bonus. Apple needs to get this right...I am now an incredibly unhappy client that has been repeatedly lied to by Apple.

Regards


Tim

Nov 19, 2017 11:25 AM in response to KeithJ80

Hi,


Same problem here.

As soon as the voice in the normal bottom microphone get's lower in volume the sound at the receiving side starts to clipp and/or becomes very weak. As soon as you raise your voice to a louder level the sound gets normal again.

Easy test is to put another (receiving) phone (Upside down) on one ear and the Iphone 8 in normal position on the other ear. Make a connection and start speaking/counting loud en than go softer on your voice. At a certain level you will hear that your voice level is suddenly decreasing to a very low level. Keep this level and distance to the microphone while putting the Iphone 8, (the one witch you are calling with) in Speaker mode, you will hear a sudden increase in volume and everything is very clear to hear. As soon as you put the Iphone 8 in normal mode again the sound is very weak again.


I changed my Iphone 8 for a new one and had the same problem, on speaker all is OK but at normal call's low souds levels are clipped.


gr.,

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