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Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin Air no longer compatible after latest iTunes update 12.7.4.76

I recently updated to the latest iTunes 12.7.4.76.


Now I can no longer connect my Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin Air over WIFI as it says it is no longer compatible with this version of iTunes.


This is no doubt an issue with the update as I have changed nothing ie: router, computer etc, this literally was an issue after the update my other devices connect fine so i believe it is specific to the B&W speaker.


I contacted apple and was told (pretty much it is bowers & Wilkins fault and to contact them).

I found this hard to believe believe as like I said nothing has been changed or altered with my setup (other than the most recent update) but I contacted them anyway.


I was told by an agent at B&W that they have had reports of this issue too and have done some research only to see various posts in forums etc. that the latest iTunes update has lots of problems/bugs that need to be addressed.


My view is that if apple are aware of this (surely a company as large as they are would/should be) why is nothing being done to address it?


If anyone knows how to fix this problem please let me know because apple don't seem to bothered (well not when I called anyway).


Thanks

null-OTHER, Windows 7, Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin Air

Posted on Apr 10, 2018 9:27 AM

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Posted on Aug 16, 2018 4:32 AM

I got the answer and a workaround from B&W:


We have heard of this issue, and we are looking into it.

However, we are fairly certain that the problem is not caused by the speaker but rather a change made to iTunes from v12.7.4.76 and later.


There is nothing we at the moment can do to solve this, but we have found a temporary workaround – at least for those using MAC.

Here is what to do:

  • Do not use the standard iTunes control panel to choose which speaker to play from
  • Instead – open iTunes as normal
  • Click on the speaker icon in the top bar meny on your Mac
  • You will find the Zeppelin Air in the drop-down menu. Choose it by clicking on the speaker's name
  • If you now go back to iTunes you will see that the program also has chosen the Zeppelin Air as speaker
  • Press play in iTunes and playback via the Zeppelin Air should commence

The only drawback that I have found with this method is that you will have to relate to two different volume controls – the one in iTunes and the in the Mac.

Both will adjust volume, and if one is all the way down no music will be heard.

My recommendation is that you set the volume control that you normally do not use to approximately 75% and then use your preferred volume control to change playback volume.

Doing this will allow you to change volume from no sound up to 75% (setting the not-preffered volume control to max will allow you to control playback volume from no sound to max volume using the other volume control)


Hope this makes sense and that the workaround also works in your setup.

I would appreciate if you could let me know if it does – and also if it does not.

They're quite quick to point out that it's iTunes fault and that they cannot do anything about it - yes, iTunes made changes, but I also think B&W can make a firmware update to solve this.


I will try this workaround tonight. Have anyone else tried this?

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Aug 13, 2018 3:26 AM in response to Colelondon

I use a Zeppelin Air 30 pin model and had no problems with the previous iTunes versions, it was the Mac OS High Sierra Version 10.13.6 that killed AirPlay for me. Rolling back to two previous iTunes versions didn't help, so I figure the problem lies within the new 10.13.6 version that doesn't play with the latest (2015!) Zeppelin Air firmware 2.04.05 (9112).

Aug 16, 2018 11:01 AM in response to valmont74

Hi Valmont74, tried it this evening with no luck. I did 4 attempts following the steps indicated in your post. As soon as I click play on itune the system just go back to system output.


I tried as well with logic, same issue. The system recognise the zeppelin but is not able to hold it.


I received a response as well from B&W and you were right, B&W does not seem to be taking any responsibility as long as it works at least with the iOS devices.


We are aware that there is a bug in the latest version of iTunes that is directly affecting Zeppelin Air 30 pin model at present.


We have raised an incident and are in contact with Apple directly with regards to any potential resolutions they can offer. Until we have had confirmation from Apple that the issue has been resolved, although we know it may not be convenient, the only work around is to roll back to an earlier version of iTunes or if using a Mac set the Zeppelin Air as its default audio output.


The issue only seems to effect iTunes on Macs or PC's at present and iOS devices such as iPhones or iPads do seem to still recognise the speaker.


We will keep a record of your enquiry and will be in contact as soon as we have any further information regarding the issue.

Aug 17, 2018 12:30 AM in response to Crycookie

I tried this workaround on my Macbook Pro and it worked for me. What doesn't work however are the multiple speakers in iTunes. I have several AirPlay compatible speakers in the house and from iTunes I used to be able to select the speakers I wanted to use, when making the Zeppelin Air the main speaker from the top bar, I cannot longer play from iTunes to several speakers. When trying to select more speakers in iTunes the sound to the Zeppelin Air stops and I get the error message that the speaker isn't compatible with iTunes.


I have told B&W about this and we will see if they reply.

The reply you got from B&W is somewhat confusing for me, it is not the iTunes version that is the problem. It's the High Sierra 10.13.6 that caused the problem (at least for me). Up until that update I could use iTunes and my speakers without problems. Also, rolling back to an earlier iTunes version doesn't help, I've tried doing so. That is why I think the culprit is the High Sierra 10.13.6.

What can one do, is Sonos the only other option if they won't fix this?

Aug 17, 2018 3:32 AM in response to valmont74

This was the same for me. Although this post is in the iTunes for Windows section, this happens for mac users as well. And on Mac OS High Sierra you can't roll back iTunes as it's a system file that cannot be deleted or overwritten, even from a Time Machine Backup


I have other Airplay speakers as well and they work flawlessly. I feel that for Mac users this is an issue with the latest iTunes update as I have been running High Sierra for some time now without issues and have only found this to be the case when iTunes was updated.

Aug 21, 2018 5:55 AM in response to leroy50

I also have the same issue. I did contact B&W and they gave me the same reply saying they are aware of it. They did say to roll back my itunes as a work around which i did try and do. However instead of the device is no longer compatible with itunes i got an error 20 code and cant connect to speaker. So basically my Zeppelin no longer works with any version of itunes. It does still work from my IOS devices. This is getting very annoying come on Apple sort it out!!!! I have a very expensive speaker which you have rendered useless.........

Aug 21, 2018 1:17 PM in response to turingtest2

I agree that feedback should be given. It appears that last update has rendered impossible for any apple computer to connect to the zeppelin independently of the OS version. I'm still on Maverick and downgraded to itune11. same error is showing when trying to connect with "unknown error 20 "and The mac is still not connecting when trying to connect via the system preference either.

This raised questions on what levels of push they are introducing with each itunes updates that are not related to itunes but to the system in itself affecting the whole computer ecosystem.

I will definitely be careful from now on to update my apple devices.


The workaround given by Valmont74 works if you have only one device but once you have multiple devices it does not work anymore 😟

Sep 27, 2018 1:47 PM in response to valmont74

With iTunes 12.8 and the new OS Mojave this workaround is not working anymore. Apple new OS and iTunes 12.8 comes with Airplay 2. Airplay 2 is incompatible with B&W Zeppelin Air. B&W is not paying to Apple the fee to use Airplay and will not release firmware updates anymore. The solution to this problem is to avoid installing iTunes 12.8 and not update to OS Mojave. Zeppelin Air are not wireless speaker anymore. Airplay 2 was designed to use only with the expensive Apple toys.

Sep 27, 2018 1:49 PM in response to leroy50

With iTunes 12.8 and the new OS Mojave this workaround is not working anymore. Apple new OS and iTunes 12.8 comes with Airplay 2. Airplay 2 is incompatible with B&W Zeppelin Air. B&W is not paying to Apple the fee to use Airplay and will not release firmware updates anymore. The solution to this problem is to avoid installing iTunes 12.8 and not update to OS Mojave. Zeppelin Air are not wireless speaker anymore. Airplay 2 was designed to use only with the expensive Apple toys.

Sep 28, 2018 5:48 AM in response to mesuno

mesuno wrote:


With iTunes 12.8 and the new OS Mojave this workaround is not working anymore. Apple new OS and iTunes 12.8 comes with Airplay 2. Airplay 2 is incompatible with B&W Zeppelin Air. B&W is not paying to Apple the fee to use Airplay and will not release firmware updates anymore. The solution to this problem is to avoid installing iTunes 12.8 and not update to OS Mojave. Zeppelin Air are not wireless speaker anymore. Airplay 2 was designed to use only with the expensive Apple toys.

That's really disappointing news, I wonder is the "AirPlay 1 killer" the OS Mojave or iTunes 12.8?

Can I use AirPlay to Zeppelin Air with iTunes 12.8 in a High Sierra OS?

Oct 21, 2018 6:20 PM in response to leroy50

I have given up on obtaining any kind of cooperation and/or resolution by either Apple or Bowers & Wilkens. Instead, I have finally found a work around using an application called TuneBlade. You can download it at tuneblade.com. There is a free version that has limitations and I would strongly recommend buying the full version for only $9.99. Well worth the cost and I can now stream to my Zeppelin Air via iTunes. Works flawlessly. P.S. This software is for Windows OS. I have Windows 10.

Dec 5, 2018 9:02 AM in response to leroy50

I have two Airplay 1 speakers on my network and since updating itunes to 12.8.0.150, one of these speakers is ‘no longer compatible’ with iTunes. My iPhone, running 12.1 is still able to recognise and play through both speakers, individually, as they are not Airplay 2 compatible speakers. I was under the impression that iTunes would still be compatible with older Airplay 1 speakers, but it does not appear to be the case. I have an old iMac, which is not able to run any operating system after El Capitan.It’s obviously an iTues issue as it is happening on many different speakers brands.

Dec 8, 2018 8:58 AM in response to BLUEHILLS55

Yay! finally!! Like you said, after nearly a year Apple decided to do something about a problem which was clearly their fault! Although I'm very happy that it is finally fixed I'm also disappointed with the length of time such a huge company took to put out a fix. Do they really put their customers needs first? Or do they focus on taking our money first and deal with problems when they see fit or suits them? I'm thinking the latter.


Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin Air no longer compatible after latest iTunes update 12.7.4.76

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