Alsoft's Disk Warrior still can't rebuild APFS disks.

Alsoft's Disk Warrior still can't rebuild APFS disks. I'm running the latest version of Sierra. I would have gone up to High Sierra if Disk Warrior had a version out that could rebuild the catalog on my inner HD, which is an SSD. So, as an SSD, I believe it would be automatically converted to an APFS disk if I did upgrade.

Why am I asking about this here at Apple instead of over at Alsoft? Well, I have written to Alsoft twice. All I get back is a reference to a web page https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/highsierraapfs.html

which says that their latest version can recognize but not repair APFS disks.

Disk Warrior has saved me a couple of times in the past, so I've been holding out for a new version.

I'm asking about this here because I'm wondering what others think or know about this situation. Is there some conflict between Apple and Alsoft? Why hasn't there been a version of Disk Warrior that can repair APFS disks?

Posted on Jul 19, 2018 2:15 PM

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JDfunky

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Posted on Sep 27, 2018 8:02 AM

Emailed sales at Alsoft yesterday, got this reply:

"Thank you for contacting Alsoft. We are working on an update, but please understand that the APFS file system is the first file system change in 20 years. Because HFS+ and APFS are so different, it will take us some time to update the DiskWarrior application to be compatible with APFS. Just last week Apple provided the documentation that we need to safely repair an APFS disc. Yes, we (and all other developers as well) have been waiting on this documentation so that we could safely repair an APFS disc. If you visit our web site, you will see that we have updated it with information for Mojave and also the pending release of DiskWarrior 5.2.

https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/highsierraapfs.html

DiskWarrior 5.2 will more gracefully deal with APFS. The Preview application in DiskWarrior will gain the ability to copy files to APFS disks when recovering data from a failing Mac OS Extended (HFS Plus) disk. The next major release of DiskWarrior will include the ability to rebuild APFS disks — this will be DiskWarrior 6"

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VikingOSX

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Jul 26, 2018 2:30 PM in response to BobHarris

Some SSD vendors advise against using TRIM because they have built the equivalent into the drive controller.

Me? I just use AWK. 😉

VikingOSX

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Jul 26, 2018 3:07 PM in response to BobHarris

The scripting language. Just AWKing your chain, Bob.😉

Barney-15E

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Jul 27, 2018 11:17 AM in response to ApMaX

Rebuild directory using the current version of DiskWarrior 5.1 and you will see what we mean.

So, I'm supposed to trust what a company that wants to sell me something says it finds.

El Deanio

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Jul 28, 2018 10:17 AM in response to VikingOSX

VikingOSX wrote:

.... Me? I just use AWK. 😉

Huh?

Barney-15E

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Jul 28, 2018 4:49 PM in response to ApMaX

You never know until you try.

I guess I'll never know and never be out $120.

babowa

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Jul 28, 2018 7:04 PM in response to ApMaX

Just out of curiosity: are you affiliated with that company?

ApMaX

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Jul 29, 2018 12:44 AM in response to Barney-15E

You do not need to buy it to try it. See my post above.

ApMaX

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Jul 29, 2018 12:45 AM in response to babowa

See my post above. Search Internet to see that what I say, many others confirm.

babowa

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Jul 29, 2018 8:50 AM in response to ApMaX

Thanks, but I'm not interested enough to waste time on it.

Barney-15E

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Aug 3, 2018 5:00 AM in response to ApMaX

Sure. No problem. But this is what experts like "Bob LeVitus" say:

Who's Bob LeVitus and what makes him an "expert?"

Aug 5, 2018 2:17 PM in response to ApMaX

Yes, this is what I feel about DiskWarrior. It has helped me when Apple's Disk Utility could not. I have not tried Drive Genius.

Barney-15E

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Aug 5, 2018 9:20 PM in response to ApMaX

I still can’t figure out what symptoms I would see that would require me to run DW.

macirion

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Aug 20, 2018 7:01 PM in response to Stephen Souza1

Warrior has fought his last battle. APFS did him in -RIP

ApMaX

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Jul 27, 2018 2:16 PM in response to Barney-15E

You said: "So, I'm supposed to trust what a company that wants to sell me something says it finds".

No, I have not relation to Alsoft other than using DiskWarrior on thousands of Macs over decades now. I do not know about High Sierra with APFS, but DiskWarrior is capable of fixing on HFS+ disks taht no other utility can do. In fact, Apple Disk Utility sometimes breaks even more disks with issues, whereas DiskWarrior fixes them. The best if to try DiskWarrior first.

What I said is that I bet that if you try DiskWarrior, you will see that it finds and fixes many problems on any disk, including booting ones and Time Machine ones. That is my experience.

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Alsoft's Disk Warrior still can't rebuild APFS disks.