Bloated OS?

I have a late 2012 iMac (Model 13,2) with 8 GB RAM. Lately one particular app (1Password) has been really slow. Etrecheck reported I was out of RAM. Huh? Never happened before. 8 GB is plenty. Last month's Etrecheck checkup (I run it monthly) showed no memory usage problem. Activity Monitor showed kernel_task well over 1GB. A little googling came up with articles reporting this is apparently a problem. Rebooting is the only reported temporary solution (until it bloats again). I rebooted and Etrecheck then reported plenty of RAM. AM shows kernel_task well under 1 GB. 1P is back to its old self. So, what is up here? Are those writing about kernel_task wrong, or are they right?

Posted on Oct 24, 2018 6:12 PM

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Nov 8, 2018 3:54 PM in response to DesertRatR

BTW, it sounds like an 8 GB machine even with a Fusion drive is not going to cut it any longer. Apple is being a bit disingenuous reporting that a Mac like mine will run Mojave. Sure, it will run, but with poorer performance. But RAM is relatively cheap, and I've got two open slots.


So I checked activity monitor just now. kernel_task had swelled to about 900 MB from the 780 MB AM reported after rebooting two days ago. I just rebooted and it is back down to 822 MB. Interestingly the cached file usage was about 2 GB before rebooting, and it is now about 3.4 GB. I figured it would go the other way.

Nov 9, 2018 7:02 AM in response to etresoft

I've not posted the Etrecheck report because there is exactly nothing to report. I just ran it again. No memory pressure and 4.17 GB available RAM with 1.58 GB free RAM. Everything is fine currently. Now that I know about the bloat problem and that rebooting solves it I'll skip the added RAM purchase and simply reboot every couple of days. Kind of like Windows in the old days: rebooting solved a variety of problems. My complaint is resolved.

Nov 9, 2018 10:29 AM in response to DesertRatR

is the OS bloated?


NO!!! It's a micro kernel 🙂 and your hardware drivers are professional and very small compared to (linux multimedia libraries)


NO. The unix portion is a hundred times smaller than Ubuntu's OS unix portion. (yet better, some say)


The desktop OS is bloated perhaps - but it's size is well within the normal and efficient. But you don't have to maintain it and convenience (ie, transparent sharing with the iphone) is there when you need it.


Are the apps bloated? No. They do take a little more space because they don't "share libs" like ubuntu does. But that same sharing causes unthinkable many bugs and user train wrecks costing some users YEARS of lost time not minutes. You definitely don't want it. Dependancy nightmare.

Nov 9, 2018 10:32 AM in response to QuietMacFan

Does the OS and LOGS (see the logs) lie about system resources? or like some other OS do does it have zombie processes running and hide them from people to cover up what's going on)? No. Thank goodness.


1password may be malfunctioning. perhaps your ~/Library has become damaged. maybe it's time to read about doing a "factory restore"


but is Apple's OS bloated? no.

Nov 10, 2018 5:32 PM in response to DesertRatR

kernel_task is still there in Mojave. Restarting will definitely clear things out. You still have to be careful though. There are a few well-known apps that have background processes that will run like mad when you first boot up and fill your RAM with cached files. The only way to break that cycle is to not run that software. The operating system itself does that, but not all at once. That's why you can go a couple of days before restarting.


Generally through, a 2012 iMac was designed for OS X Mountain Lion. At the time, that was considered a significantly bloated OS version as compared to Snow Leopard. It was, at least, an improvement over Lion. These days, Mountain Lion is positively svelte in comparison. Sadly, Mountain Lion has old security protocols and that makes it very difficult to use these days. Mavericks is pretty fast too, but that was the first of the super-buggy OS versions. Mountain Lion corrected many of Lion's bugs and was a remarkably stable operating system. But since Mavericks, there hasn't been a reduction in bugs or an improvement in reliability. It just gets bigger and slower every year. Your 2012 iMac is never going to be any better than "pokey" with a modern operating system. And the mechanical part of that fusion drive is only going to get slower until it stops altogether one day.


8 GB RAM with a fusion drive is pretty much the minimum configuration under ideal conditions. But there is no way of knowing if you have any other software that pushes it to less-than-ideal conditions.

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