iMac superdrive can read bought CDs and DVDs fine, but won't recognise CD ROMs and DVD ROMs.

I've a problem with my iMac's superdrive.


It refuses to recognise any DVD ROMs, marking them as "blank" and "uninitialized."


Finder says, "You inserted a blank DVD. Choose an action from the pop-up menu or click Ignore."

Disk Utility lists them as "Uninitialized" and [Zero KB].


I have the same problem with home-burned CDs: Finder says "You inserted a blank CD..."; and Disk Utility describes it as "Uninitialized," yet it still notes the data used - eg. [846.4 MB] in top right.


But shop-bought DVD movies and published CDs are recognised. They open and play absolutely fine over DVD player and iTunes, and also are listed by Finder as disks with their complete directories.


Those unrecognised optical ROMS register absolutely fine by my ancient 2009 MacBook Pro running "El Capitan" (that's the latest OS it's allowed to run).


Logic tells me this must be a software issue — not a hardware problem. I know that DVDs and CDs require different reading lasers. But surely they do not also use separate reading heads to see DVD-ROMs and CD-ROMs — or do they? That would then mean every superdrive contains contain four different reading heads!


More likely, surely, that High Sierra's system software is now struggling to locate the blocks at the head end of a DVD-ROM or CD-ROM? (I suppose the ROMs might replicate one of Apple's HFS systems, or FAT, or ISO 9660, or whatever; whilst proprietary CDs and DVDs for music and movies might use a more universally agreed file structure readable by all proprietary "players"?)


Could someone with some knowledge of ROM and R/W formats comment. Is there some way to persuade my iMac also to read CD and DVD ROMs (or do I have to reinstall an earlier OS?).


I'm running OS-X High Sierra 10.13 (the latest which this iMac can run).


I gather "High Sierra" was the name given to the agreed file system ISO for early mid-eighties CD-ROMs. Ironic, then, that Apple's High Sierra OS is the one which is nobbling my ability to retrieve data from them!

Posted on Jan 6, 2020 10:20 AM

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Jan 8, 2020 2:53 AM in response to Eric M Colvin

If your iMac has an internal Superdrive there is no need for razors, glue guns and whatever else you mentioned. The glass is held on with magnets and the screen itself by eight T10 torx screws.

I had a late 2009 iMac that I removed the optical drive and installed in it's place an SSD. Did the work myself in about 45 minutes. I put the original superdrive in a slim external usb enclosure.

Jan 11, 2020 3:14 PM in response to Old Toad

I am indeed able to burn a disc, Old Toad: just not read the results, which still strikes me as fantastically strange.


Here's what I did on Mike's (and Urqhart's) Advice :


  1. Dismantled the computer as far as the superdrive, following iFixit instructions recommended by Mike. This was just as easy as Mike had promised (I am eating my words above but can't find any way to cross them out): the screen magnets are great; this machine is well designed and satisfyingly easy to disassemble (down to the superdrive, at any rate).
  2. There was quite a lot of dust in the back and in the fans, which I addressed with a vacuum.
  3. I disassembled the superdrive itself. That was clean as a whistle inside, and the lens was shiny and flawless as if it had just come from the factory. (Or is that just the lens cover? I didn't touch the small moving box which clearly contained the laser; I suppose I could rub alcohol on that shiny plastic; but it really looked unblemished.)
  4. Reassembled all, and plugged in a shop-bought CD — recognised by and copied into iTunes at speed (11x) .
  5. Then I plugged in two or three computer-burned CD-ROMs. None were recognised; the motor whirred and stopped twice as before, then the computer declared I'd inserted a blank disk.
  6. I inserted a shop-bought film on DVD: this was instantly recognised and DVD-Player began to play it.
  7. I then tried several pre-burned DVD-ROMs. Not one was recognised and, after stopping and starting twice, Apple declared the disks blank.
  8. Finally, I inserted a genuinely blank DVD-ROM and burned a disk image onto it.

The burning went fine. Having burned, it verified the disk and declared the operation a success.


So here's the thing:

it recognised the blank disk and burned a full DVD image onto it;

it happily read the disk — insofar as it verified the track(s) it had just burned, which I assume means they were read?

it then ejected the disk; when I reinserted it, it declared it to be blank!

I should add that this newly burned disk of course opens and reads fine on my humble old MacBook Pro 2009.


So I took on board Urqhart's comments about contrast being lower on DVD-ROM. But I remain logically stumped that it could read the ROM it was burning perfectly well enough to verify and declare the burn successful — yet it refuses to recognise the self-same disk on reinsertion; whilst MacBook Pro proves the DVD is fine.


Thanks, anyway, all (especially Mike) for giving me confidence to take a screwdriver to the iMac with no glue-guns required.


I'm thinking, at this point, it might be worth tracking down an internal superdrive on eBay or somewhere (perhaps, even, cannibalising the one from my MacBook Pro? — just to see if that will still work fine in an iMac.)




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