Print settings are a MESS in Ventura

Ever since "upgrading" to OS Ventura my print settings are a complete mess. Nothing "sticks" no matter how often I change presets and save them, it always defaults back to garbage output with two-sided printing defaulting to "On", incorrect paper trays selected despite saving presets for specific paper trays etc.


When will this be resolved? It's a MAJOR issue for people who print frequently, and makes the new "update" a complete mess for small businesses.

iMac 27″, macOS 10.13

Posted on Jan 2, 2023 7:52 AM

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Posted on Jan 2, 2023 8:07 PM

I had this problem on one of my Macs and I had to do the following:


Reset the printing system on your Mac to solve a problem - Apple Support


Then re-install / re-add your printer.


If it's an HP brand printer, there is a nifty HP Smart App on the Mac App Store that works wonders with installing appropriate drivers for the printer.


My specific problem was the Mac refused to print in color despite all settings and presets being correct. It started working after resetting the print system and re-installing the printer.



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Mar 8, 2024 6:21 AM in response to Steven Keirstead

I have to agree with the title of this post, yes they are a mess. I have published my findings on the following forum https://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/apple-ventura-printer-driver-issues.16400/#post-141631 . Briefly on my Mac Studio running Ventura and printing to a Canon Pro-10s printer settings, specifically the ColorSync setting gets changed from ColorSync to Canon Manages Color when any of the <Cancel> buttons on any of the sub menu panes are pressed. This is very confusing as the user has to check the settings before printing. The use of printer presets also causes issues which I have not fully investigated. Lastly printing from DxO PL incorrectly (in my opinion) allows an ICC profile to be selected in the ColorSync pane. As soon as it is selected Photolab crashes. So yes its a mess. The link above includes screen shots comparing Big Sur and Ventura. I suspect that the UI issues were introduced in the change from System Preferences to the new System Settings pane which served only to introduce bugs such as those described above. Thank you Apple and any chance of reverting to Snow Leopard ?

Jan 5, 2023 9:52 AM in response to James Brickley

I did this (reset the print system and re-added printers) and it made things WORSE, so of course Apple makes this the recommended reply.


Now, in addition to none of my print settings actually being saved regardless of how often I create and save new presets, everything is printing double sided even when double sided is CLEARLY selected as OFF.


Is this really not going to be addressed? Ventura utterly ruined the printing on my imac, and Apple has no response?

Jan 17, 2023 11:24 AM in response to Micah D.

I'm having the same issue. My brother printer, which I've adored, is no longer allowing me to turn OFF the duplexing, which means I cannot print checks here in my office as needed. I contacted Brother, and they have firmly stated that they have no intentions of providing a driver for OS 13/Ventura. So, apple, please please please fix it! I need to get my old printer drivers working as they should, as they have, vs. the generic print screen now provided by Ventura, which is disfunctional and inoperative/responsive. This should not force a dump of a printer that's a tank otherwise--

Jan 29, 2023 5:50 AM in response to Micah D.

I have an HP Z9+ large format printer and Ventura effed up printing big time from Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop, and pretty much everything else. Paper orientation, ICC color matching screwed up at first. Then I reset the print system and uninstalled and reinstalled the HP PS and Raster drivers. Now the Apple print presets WILL NOT keep the paper type, print quality, and gloss enhancer settings from one print to another. WTF!?! Apple? Why is this so unstable? FIX IT!

Feb 27, 2023 11:58 PM in response to Micah D.

So I see that I am not alone with the high level of frustration with Apple printing. I've been trying to print a custom size card and after print system reset and recreating custom sizes for not one, not 2 but 4 different printers and 3 different Macs, I can ONLY get it to work on an OkiMC573. (Kyocera, Fuji and OkiMB472 did not work.) Did not recognise the card size, wrong tray you name it nothing worked except for the OkiMC573. Unfortunately the printer it has to work on for our business is the Kyocera. This is abysmal. We had trouble with printing generally in previous versions on MacOS but Ventura is the worst. How hard is it - please. Get your act together Apple.

Apr 25, 2023 9:48 AM in response to James Brickley

Frankly, I wish it had been that simple. Resetting the Apple Print System in Ventura and reinstalling drivers is not a solution that worked on my Mac Pro, my personal MacBook Pro, or my work MacBook Air. I had persistent problems with Ventura printing on a slew of printers of many manufacturers: HP DesignJet Z9+, an HP OfficeJet 4650, Epson SureColor P600, Xerox Versalink 8000, and Xerox C9070. Print presets did not work, as in not retaining specific print settings, and Lightroom Classic printed wrong colors on the HP Z9+ using the same workflow that I had used before in Catalina and Monterey OS.


When reinstalling the HP OfficeJet 4650 Drivers using HP Easy in my reinstalled Monterey for the MBA, I have not been able to get the HP driver to work. I had to find an older HP Mac OS diver set from the Apple Support Downolads site and use the PPD for an earlier HP OfficeJet 4630 to get it to be able to print without an error. The Apple AirPrint driver also works for that printer. So HP makes coding errors too it seems. There is nothing "HP Easy" about a print failing after it starts and giving the inscrutable message "filter failed."


It seems there is a deeper issue here that Apple (and to some extent printer manufacturers) have not fixed, and people who need anything beyond basic print functionality have been harmed by the bugs in the print system in Ventura, causing wasted time, ink, and paper (which can get very expensive for high end photo printing).

Feb 21, 2023 9:40 AM in response to Micah D.

"MESS" is the polite word regarding what has happened to printing with Ventura. I can't begin to tell you how screwed up printing high quality prints with Photoshop is. I refuse to waste any more time trying to get my printing results back to what they were. I'm moving Photoshop over to Windows - and we'll see how that works. Can't be any worse.

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