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Mojave has made my iPod Touch a paperweight.

I don't see much out there regarding this issue, but once I upgraded to Mojave, my old iPod Touch (2nd Generation) ceased syncing capabilities with iTunes. I get this message:


"iTunes could not connect to the iPod touch “iPod” because an invalid response was received from the device."


Thinking it was a problem with my old iPod, I restored it to factory settings. However, I still get the same message and all of my music is erased. I even had to hook it up to an older computer to complete the installation after restore.


I know I can downgrade back to High Sierra, but I'd rather not do that. Is there a way to get music back onto the iPod without using iTunes? I'd rather do that and then call it a day with this iPod. My 7-year-old is missing his tunes, though, so any help would be appreciated.


Thanks.

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Posted on Oct 30, 2018 2:52 PM

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Nov 10, 2018 6:47 AM in response to MichelPM

How is this NOT planned obsolescence? If the overarching rationale of those buying new technology is that it will not endure, then that is the very definition of planned obsolescence. I can still use a transistor radio bought 50 years ago to capture radio signals. Seems like a simple device to capture and play podcasts could be equally stable. Simply because newer versions are available does not mean one WANTS that version. I agree with devzin.


Your philosophy also supports a deeper more troubling aspect of how technology production and consumption has shifted our relationship with Mother Earth. All of the mined materials that go into a current technological product--we simply discard them? Or let them wash up on Indian shores to be scavenged? I was a BIG Apple supporter way back when, when I bought my 528K computer. But I have watched the evolution of the company with dismay. Though it is true that all the android makers are similar, that does not justify the base rationale.

Nov 10, 2018 6:56 AM in response to devzin98

devzin98 wrote:


The age of the device shouldn’t matter. They built it, and they should support it. If they are going to stop supporting it, fine, but TELL US so that we can make an informed decision before updating to their newest OS/iTunes version. There was no warning, no notification, nothing telling us that older devices would be rendered obsolete with the update. I read up on new version prior to updating and there was no mention of this anywhere. That is unacceptable.

Apple doesn’t have to tell ANYONE ANYTHING!

You know when Apple stops selling/supporting a device?

When they stop making them, selling them and NOT putting them on their website any longer!

Apple never mentions anything about software compatibility for iDevices or computers they no longer actively support.

Apple has never done this ever and they aren’t going to do this anytime soon.

Apple just discontinued the iPhone 5S, SE and iPhone 6 lineup.

HUGE possibility Apple will NOT support these old iPhone models with iOS 13 next year.

I am even thinking the “recent" iPod Touch 6th gen may not see an iOS 13 next year, either.

Nov 10, 2018 7:07 AM in response to MichelPM

Well, that's good to know they recycle. You still haven't rebutted my argument using the transistor radio analogy, though. Planned obsolescence is planned obsolescence. Perhaps some company that has not bought into this philosophy so fully will produce a cheap generic podcast player that can endure as long as a transistor radio. The podcast technology is really simple and unlikely to change in goat lifetime years . . . If a company produces such a product, I will gleefully embrace them. Until then, I have to endure planned obsolescence, apparently.

Nov 10, 2018 7:18 AM in response to bodysurfer

Today's mobile elrctronics are NOT like transistor radios. Sorry.

And even these have gone out of style for music and news over the Internet and Sattelite radio.

A transistor radio never needed specialised hardware and software to work.

Podcasts are a function of the Internet and computer technology.

Both are needed for the creation of the Podcast, as well as, for the listening.

You don't have any technology that gets Internet Podcasts, you aren't listenin to NO Podcasts!

The transistor radio analogy really dates you.

Do you still use a transistor radio or some form of this today?

Nov 10, 2018 7:25 AM in response to MichelPM

Really dates me?! If I have read Plato, I suppose that dates me, too. (You can find out who Plato is by consulting Wikipedia--or visiting a public library where they might still have bound encyclopedias.) I actually do have a transistor radio, and you know what? It works in emergencies when the Internet is down. I appreciate that you have accumulated so many points in these fora to ascend to Level 7, but your dismissive attitude is really off-putting. I won't be back on this thread.

Nov 10, 2018 7:51 AM in response to MichelPM

I really didn’t come here for an argument. But why are you defending Apple so vehemently? Is what I’m suggesting - that they actually responsibly tell you when they’re dropping support for a device - that outlandish? Just because they don’t and haven’t doesn’t make it right. They supported it up until a month ago, but haven’t been selling my model for years. Do you know how easy it would be for them to have a little pop-up notice appear on the screen prior to installation? Would take them two seconds. I get you seem to be an Apple loyalist - I myself have nine different Apple devices in my home of varying age. But part of the reason I buy Apple is because of the reliability. By doing things like this, they’re forcing your hand back into your wallet, and I don’t like that.


Like I said, they’re free to drop support whenever they choose. But the way in which they’re doing it is dishonest and shallow. There’s nothing wrong with my old device, but their pop up message makes it seem like there is. Most people will just buy something new to replace something that isn’t broken and does the same thing, I guess.


Anyway, I’m appreciative of everyone who has provided feedback on the subject. Thanks.

Nov 10, 2018 11:24 AM in response to devzin98

Devzin98, if you have not checked yet, it is apparently quite complicated to un-install Mojave and go back to High Sierra. So you and I are screwed. Like you, I have had MANY Apple products, beginning with my old 528K computer and concluding now with my mini connected to a Thunderbolt. Because Apple has veered away from the ethos that they had nurtured for so long, I'm now looking elsewhere. Their policy IS dishonest and shallow--but it makes them bucks, alas.

Dec 2, 2018 10:53 AM in response to MichelPM

Thanks for trying to help but all of your responses have been not at all helpful, unfortunately.


When attempting to install an older version of iTunes, however, Mojave appears to lock this down. I receive a response of "This software is not supported on your system." with the very link provided.


To further complicate the issue, Apple no longer has El Capitan or prior OS versions available in the App Store once upgrading to Mojave, thus, we are at a "point of no return" at the moment with Mojave.


Seems to be specific to the 2nd generation iPod touch and thus, it appears this is indeed planned obsolescence (or negligence/oversight by the Apple dev team to test all iPod touch generations).

Dec 2, 2018 3:25 PM in response to canonindevin1989

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I haven’t personally done it, but you should be able to “downgrade” to High Sierra. There are YouTube videos which show how to do this, although I’ve heard that Mojave makes it more difficult than previous OS. You’d basically be doing a fresh install, so you’d have to back up and erase everything and start from scratch.


Or you can do what I did and find someone with a Mac who hasn’t updated to Mojave, put your music on there, and sync your iPod “one last time”.


Unfortunately, Apple seems intent on forcing you to re-buy what you already have, rather than simply warning you that if you upgrade to a new version of iTunes or new OS, it will cease to work.


Good luck.

Dec 2, 2018 3:26 PM in response to canonindevin1989

Hi

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I haven’t personally done it, but you should be able to “downgrade” to High Sierra. There are YouTube videos which show how to do this, although I’ve heard that Mojave makes it more difficult than previous OS. You’d basically be doing a fresh install, so you’d have to back up and erase everything and start from scratch.


Or you can do what I did and find someone with a Mac who hasn’t updated to Mojave, put your music on there, and sync your iPod “one last time”.


Unfortunately, Apple seems intent on forcing you to re-buy what you already have, rather than simply warning you that if you upgrade to a new version of iTunes or new OS, it will cease to work.


Good luck.

Mojave has made my iPod Touch a paperweight.

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