"Enter your passcode to trust this computer and start a backup." Every time iPhone is on charge.

It seems one of those idiotic changes from someone who believes can boost icloud's revenue by making annoying changes in the name of safety and security. I really hope Apple does not let me down with this.

There’s 54 “Me Too”s on this report and I am one of them. I don’t know how truly widespread this problem is, I am guessing most people don’t use iTunes for backups but it is definitely NOT isolated to this single user. I own multiple iOS devices and they ALL are exhibiting this behavior after recent iOS updates.

Apple's servers are protected by two factor authentication and your data is not accessible without your explicit approval or by using a passcode protected trusted device.

If you lost your computer this is presumably to protect your local data from being sync'd to the thief's iphone.

Then shouldn't this "feature" be turned off after a single trust for Macs that have FileVault on? Unless Apple has been skimping on security for their consumer computers. Plus this change doesn't do anything new to prevent local backup data from a computer from being synced TO an iPhone. It doesn't even add any new encryption to an iPhone backup on a computer, which was already encrypted at another layer on top of FileVault. A thief would require all 3: your computer passcode, your FileVault key, and your iPhone encrypted backup password. This only adds the mere appearance of security by requiring a passcode entry that doesn't actually encrypt anything.

In my consumer opinion, it is an update that just cause inconvenience. Apple, please reverese that or allow to modify it in the setings or with the face ID. This update does not change the encryption, it just limit the users who regularly backup phones in their PCs. Sometimes IOS updates bring innovation, but more than often afects a product that was working fine. I wonder how is this feature in droid telephones?

What's interesting is that after the backup, if you disconnect the phone, and a few minutes later reconnect it, as always, it begins to back it up again. And, again asks for the password, which makes no sense because the same phone is connecting to the same computer...and they both know that. So in the end, it looks like this problem is a bug.

And just for fun, as an odd fact that many don't know: we use the term "bug" because, way back when lots of equipment used relay logic, the relays at the time weren't sealed. So, a bug sometimes got into the machine and was sitting between a contact pair when the relay energized, mashing the bug and preventing contact. In time, it became a joke. When a problem showed up the tech would laugh and say, "Time to debug the machine." The term stuck, and is still in use, though few know why.

What I learned after 15 years apple. This kind of bugs will be fixed in the next iOS major release. Live with that.

years ago there was a iOS version where opening camera app stops music, podcast etc playback. For one year!

Well, that is what our friends from Apple are implying; and for me that’s preposterous. I hope is a bug that will be fixed, rather than a reason to consider droid once my iPhone gets useless as usually happens with new versions of IOs.

The big problem I have with this is that I back up several iDevices for family to a Windows machine. The idea being they’re at home, they plug in to a charger, the device backs up without them knowing or thinking about it.

Now with this behavior, every time they plug their phone to the charger, they get an unexpected popup asking for their password. They are trained NOT to enter in their password at random, unexpected prompts. So of course they deny it and the backup does not take place.

And further, we all use complicated alphanumeric passwords (to thwart GrayKey style attacks) so it’s a bit of a pain to constantly type in a 20-letter alphanumeric password with mixed case.

I’m sure Apple would love to nudge people towards one of their paid iCloud plans (and I actually have one, but not for device backups) but I won’t use iCloud for device backups until Apple implements end-to-end encryption, which they currently do not. iCloud backups (and iOS vulnerabilities) are the only way the government or malicious actors can get at your data due to the lack of E2EE.

This isn’t surprising though, I have noticed over the years that iTunes seems to be a neglected piece of software with bugs and glitches, but it has been a reliable platform for device backups. Until now.

So yeah, I definitely have submitted feedback through the suggested channels but am pessimistic this gets fixed.

Although the snide remarks are somewhat funny, you can read the thread and realize how this doesn't increase security whatsoever. The repeated passcode entries provide no encryption nor any sense beyond making automatic local backups impossible, in favor of pushing one to use Apple's iCloud instead.

Well, you are wrong. Data between your device and iCloud is end to end encrypted. Actually, ALL data in and out of an iOS device is end to end encrypted. And iCloud itself is encrypted in storage. The vulnerability is that your Apple ID and password is the encryption key, so it is essential to protect them and use 2 factor authentication.

But it can still be more secure than your computer, which can be stolen or seized by law enforcement.

I wonder about why some setups request the iPhone passcode. Mine doesn’t for any of my 4 iOS devices, so what makes it different? And all of them back up automatically. All on iOS 16.

I am just humbly trying to get a solution to a bonehead mistake made by apple which seems to be to make things more difficult for the users to increase their business. The only one clowning the people is Apple

In case anyone is interested, the problem I reported, where the phone asked for the password each time the phone was plugged into a Mac seems to have vanished...at least on an iPhone 14 running IOS 16.1.1—though that wasn't true last night with the same IOS and phone.

Strange are the ways of Apple.