Mail App Opens Randomly Mojave 10.14.5

Update: I was able to add my calendar separately using a CalDAV account only, not using the Google Account. It took a few tries - must have typed something in wrong.

I followed the information on this page (it's a little old) but it seems to work perfectly.

Everything is syncing as it should!

I would imagine that some Apple employees, if not all, use Apple Mail but probably don't use Gmail which is seemingly been the source for this trouble, at least from what I'm reading from others on the web. In all the discussions I've looked through for the past 5-7 years at least, I've never seen a post from someone claiming to be an Apple employee so don't get your hopes up.

This sounds like a very robust and savvy solution. I use a simpler one that seems to work for me: when I am done using the Apple mail app, I get it off the screen not by clicking the x but by clicking the minimize button — the yellow middle box of the three in the upper left of the window. After I’ve done that the app does not open randomly while I’m doing other things. This works.

I see what you mean but I'm not a minimizer by habit. I either close the window (usually for Mail and iTunes) or hide it (Safari - so I don't close and lose all of my tabs). I guess I like a clean Dock. I did forget that there is an option to minimize the application to the Dock icon rather than on the side of the Dock. Never really thought of turning that on until now. Don't know if that's something I would like or not. I can see how keeping Mail minimized would stop it from popping up.

I agree — vehemently — with the point that Apple should provide a real fix. I am just talking here about how to get by till they do. I have to say also that the Mail app itself, while serviceable, is also geeky and unlovely. It’s uncharacteristic of Apple. I hope that they’re in the process of making it over both to solve such issues as this one and to make it more attractive. I keep reading that e-mail is out of fashion and unhip. I continue to think to the contrary that it is among the most useful and revolutionary gifts of the internet.

No, Dan, I'm with you. I think email is a great thing but I honestly don't love it. I would rather use something like Microsoft Teams or Slak because I like that style of communication but I know that email isn't going anywhere. I would like to see Apple add some functionality into Mail and give it a makeover. I have no idea what to expect from Mail in Catalina because I don't bother with public beta testing but even something as simple as to delay a message and send it later would be a big thing for me.

This is so ghetto. All these “I think I fixed it” jury rigs, for a major, long term bug in a core app such as Mail. Sad. I switched over from Windows and Android in 2014 because I wanted things to “just work,” as Jobs put it. More and more, I feel Apple is ambivalent to that mantra.

I swear to Christ I'm permanently switching to Outlook if this doesn't get fixed. The app is just sitting in my launchpad. This bug is serious, it has been around for at least a year, and it widely affects users. WTF?

Yes, you are right, the problem is present since I've upgraded to two phase auth.

And your solution is brilliant!

For sure the bug is still there, but in this way it is hidden, because we bypass 2phase auth.

Thanks!

Worked for me for the last 4 hours. I suppose I can only speak for myself. I’ve been kindly putting up with it for months. Seems like a likely culprit especially since Mail Drop appears to be an abandoned feature. I’m a software engineer if that lends any weight to your decision to give it a shot.

I'm also a software engineer. After a full year of dealing with this, I almost can't believe it could be something so simple. Going to give it a shot once I get home and let you know.

IF this works.... (speechless).

This seems like a problem for someone with feable ammounts of RAM. My new Macbook pro with a whopping 64GB of RAM does not see this as an issue.

On the other hand, Getting 64GB of RAM gave apple the right to use 30GB at all times, specially when booting up. Imagine what will happen when i fire up Photoshop to edit my 300x300 image.

I've avoided the app password thing for gmail. However, Google is going to force everyone to use it next year going forward. They sent admins a email yesterday. Starting February 15, 2021, G Suite accounts will only allow access to apps using OAuth. Password-based access will no longer be supported.

They recommend OAuth. App password is prob better, just more of a PITA for users.

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I am having this same exact issue, since Mojave, and still, with the latest Mojave...

To add some weight to this, in the hopes it might get fixed sooner than later...