Problem Bootcamp Windows 10 & Bluetooth

As I said, using a wireless mouse and the BT-enabled MT works fine for me in Windows so, I'm sticking with that for the moment. That makes everything OK in macOS without the need for cables as well.

Windows 1803 is supposed to be released on the 10th April, but I might have bad news for you. Are you on the Insider Program?

Has this method worked for someone else? Does it keep working on all Windows startups or does it always have to be repeated?

On the other hand it is not clear to me the BT's disconnection order, I explain:

Restart into windows 10.----- (in this point the BT is on?)

Turn Bluetooth on and off.----- (is "on to off"?)

Plug in keyboard with lightening cable.----- (while BT is off?)

Hold the command and Eject Key on IMac Pro keyboard. ----- (while BT is off?)

Remove lightening cable .----- (connect in BT at this time?)

Done

Can someone explain it to me?

Has this method worked for someone else? Does it keep working on all Windows startups or does it always have to be repeated?

On the other hand it is not clear to me the BT's disconnection order, I explain:

Restart into windows 10.----- (in this point the BT is on?)

Turn Bluetooth on and off.----- (is "on to off"?)

Plug in keyboard with lightening cable.----- (while BT is off?)

Hold the command and Eject Key on IMac Pro keyboard. ----- (while BT is off?)

Remove lightening cable .----- (connect in BT at this time?)

Done

Can someone explain it to me?

Carlos Garrido wrote:

Has this method worked for someone else? Does it keep working on all Windows startups or does it always have to be repeated?

On the other hand it is not clear to me the BT's disconnection order, I explain:

Restart into windows 10.----- (in this point the BT is on?)

Turn Bluetooth on and off.----- (is "on to off"?)

Plug in keyboard with lightening cable.----- (while BT is off?)

Hold the command and Eject Key on IMac Pro keyboard. ----- (while BT is off?)

Remove lightening cable .----- (connect in BT at this time?)

Done

Can someone explain it to me?

Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to do! Can you explain what this procedure is trying to achieve?

I’m not trying to make a meal of this, but we’ve tried all that - and every other possible combination of events - already over the last couple of weeks and have got nowhere. It’s clearly not possible to solve this without a fix from Apple or MS.

What gets me about all this is that if there is a general problem with BT4 devices, why is there not more activity about this on the web?

Apart from one or two threads here, I can’t see anything. Nothing on Macrumors, and that is surprising.

Maybe it’s not a general issue at all.

Sure, but if it is a general problem, there would be a lot more activity on it as it would be affecting every MT2, MM2 and MK user who boots into Windows.

I‘m not convinced this is a universal problem.

Hello,

First of all, I am a not any kind of expert, just a user. I have a new 2017 27” iMac for several months. Ive had no problems with the Magic Mouse and Magic Keyboard until a few days ago. I returned from vacation and they will not function in windows (using bootcamp). I updated the MacOS to 10.13.4 and then noticed it but from this thread I understand it’s likely a windows update issue.

I’ve only found a few threads like this one, at least I know I’m not alone. It is very frustrating, especially knowing how much $$ I paid for this computer.

For a non-expert like me - what is the best solution besides waiting on Microsoft or Apple. Use old wired mouse / keyboard (annoying but it works)? Or something else?

Thanks for any replies for a non genius but not dummy like me.

CZAHAROP

igmackenzie wrote:

I don't see where the confusion lies. Just use the one that is working! And in terms of expense, really? I mean you can buy a reasonable mouse for Windows use for a few pounds. Really not a big consideration!

$129 - Buy Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad for iMac in Silver - Apple

$129 - Buy Magic Trackpad for iMac in Silver - Apple

A USB-wired mouse is available for USD3. If I have $250+ invested in these two, it will not be used (or wasted) on Windows. macOS provides much richer functionality for both of these devices.

If M$ sees no value in testing/validating their updates on a Mac, the niche segment of BC/Windows users always suffer, whether it is a broken macOS update or a broken Windows Update. Neither am I a big fan of daily updates (or forced updates) from M$, a la Adobe.

2) Not sure what you mean about Retina displays not being supported. If icons, etc. are too small, then change the scaling factor in Windows Display Settings. Common for 5120x2880 displays is 200%.

This is what i mean about the Bootcamp Windows app still not supporting retina resolutions correctly. Volume pop-up very small compared to macOS or pre Retina screens. Icons inside the app abnormally small.

Windows looks great, and the scaling settings are properly configured by Bootcamp Setup on 200% (although it shows initially as a greyed-out 450% on Windows's settings saying a personalized scaled has been define and entering into it shows the 200%).

Scaling in Windows has always been abysmal. Since its inception, it's been done the wrong way. Only since Windows 10 has Microsoft begun addressing the plethora of issues surrounding scaling. Every upgrade released to the system has improved the user experience on this matter, but they still have a long way to go before it's anywhere near what things look like in other OSes, MacOS included…

I’ve installed that update yesterday, but I hadn’t yet tried working with my wireless devices again… It wasn’t listed as an issue having been resolved. I shall be trying it out for myself later today. This most certainly sounds promising! Thanks for the heads-up!

igmackenzie wrote:

Yep, all looking good so far!

As an aside, I was reminded of how crazy it is that we have to do a reg hack to make the Trackpad/Mouse scroll in the natural direction of macOS. It would be a trivial addition to the Bootcamp Control Panel. Why after all these years have Apple not done this. Scroll speed options, etc.?

Like in macOS, you mean? I don’t know, but it seems to me that, at least for the mouse, support is minimalist, if not barebones, to say the least. Keyboard options are nearly always few and far between, and can be configured in the Keyboard section (Settings > Devices). The same would be true for mouse options, if only the Apple-supplied driver would have included some.

Anyway, to be honest, I’m more than pleased that at least everything now works the way it should. I’m not that bothered by the lack of configurability, as I only reside in Windows for as long as I might need the apps that require it…

igmackenzie wrote:

As an aside, I was reminded of how crazy it is that we have to do a reg hack to make the Trackpad/Mouse scroll in the natural direction of macOS. It would be a trivial addition to the Bootcamp Control Panel. Why after all these years have Apple not done this. Scroll speed options, etc.?

Apple sees the Windows/Bootcamp market as a very small segment of it's overall market. Unless every Mac sold was used to run Windows, it is unlikely that Apple will do anything. The BC drivers are OEM'd by Apple from Microsoft. If Microsoft wants to sell feature parity between the macOS and Windows side, on Macs, it should come from Microsoft, not Apple.

igmackenzie wrote:

It's a nonsense that Apple behave in this way. They haven't updated the BC Control Panel for years, and are showing total disregard for the many Mac owners who also run Windows. BC is an advertised feature of buying Macs, so Apple should respect those who want to use their products in that manner.

There is nothing significant in the BC Control Panel, except OS switching. On the new iMacPro, the BC panel allows switching between APFS and Windows automatically. BC is advertised, but you are asking feature parity on Trackpad, not BC. If 5 Macs sold run Windows, and the other 95 run macOS only, who should Apple listen to - 95 or 5?

igmackenzie wrote:

I disagree that it's a MS thing, it is down to Apple to put that (and a few other) trivial change into the BC panel. Not everyone - and I don't include myself - wants, or even knows how, to make registry changes.

Very annoying.

Yet, you just installed a Windows Update to fix an issue of drivers that came from Microsoft. This entire discussion reflects a Microsoft issue, not an Apple issue. You can blame anyone you like, but this is a Microsoft issue. The scroll-wheel setting could very easily be detected and fixed in the Settings of a Mouse/Trackpad, based on PID/VID of the device.